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Wreck of HMAS Sydney found
ABC News ^

Posted on 03/16/2008 4:25:17 PM PDT by Gomez

The group searching for HMAS Sydney has found the wreckage of the World War II Australian warship off the coast of Western Australia, the ABC has confirmed.

The breakthrough by the Finding Sydney Foundation comes less than 24 hours after it announced it had located the wreckage of the German raider Kormoran, which also sank after a battle with the Sydney in November 1941.

(Excerpt) Read more at abc.net.au ...


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: australia; geraldton; hmassydney; memorial; milhist; shipwreck; sydney; wwii
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To: CGTRWK

*The one that sank two British ships off Coronel, and was then sunk at the Falklands.


61 posted on 03/17/2008 6:25:45 PM PDT by CGTRWK
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To: PzLdr
Not quite the same thing but you need to “google up” Liberty Ship SS Stephen Hopkins.
62 posted on 03/17/2008 7:09:31 PM PDT by nomorelurker (keep flogging them till morale improves)
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To: CGTRWK
The one that was lost with all hands off Coronel was.

That one wasn't lost off of Corenel - it went down off of the Falklands, on the other side of South America.

I was thinking of the later Scharnhorst which had about 3 times the number killed.

63 posted on 03/17/2008 7:16:20 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: beericus

If I remember correctly, the reason the remains in the Hunley faired so well is that the hull was completely filled with mud.


64 posted on 03/17/2008 7:29:27 PM PDT by 2111USMC
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To: xone

36 survivors, rescued by destroyers HMS SCORPION and MATCHLESS [out of a crew of some 1,800].


65 posted on 03/17/2008 8:26:33 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: nmh

“Yes, they were ... criminals were sent there.”

Indeed convicts were transported. However Australia came into existence only in 1901 (actually technically in 1931 or 1986 depending on your interpretaion)as a federation of states long after transportation had ended. Some of these states were set up in their early days as penal colonies, some as free states. So you see to say Australia was a penal colony is a gross oversimplification.


66 posted on 03/18/2008 1:44:39 AM PDT by Dave Elias
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To: exit82

That is what I am thinking. Two more days and the Indianapolis would have not had survivors.


67 posted on 03/18/2008 9:10:20 AM PDT by U S Army EOD (Say Cheese.)
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To: Dave Elias

They weren’t close to each other when they sunk.


68 posted on 03/18/2008 9:13:04 AM PDT by U S Army EOD (Say Cheese.)
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To: 2111USMC

Yes the Hunley was filled with mud, in pretty shallow calm waters. The Whydah wreck at Cape Cod produced an intact leg bone of the youngest pirate ever, still attached to his shoe. I guess I just cant imagine remains being found in deep ocean waters.


69 posted on 03/18/2008 2:52:11 PM PDT by beericus
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To: U S Army EOD

“They weren’t close to each other when they sunk.”

They were 4 Nautical miles apart


70 posted on 03/20/2008 12:36:30 AM PDT by Dave Elias
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To: Dave Elias

When they both went down or when they were engaged?


71 posted on 03/20/2008 1:46:33 AM PDT by U S Army EOD (Say Cheese.)
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To: Dave Elias

I just read the article again and it says they were found ten miles apart. That is a pretty long way if there was only a surface search. We don’t really know if anyone was even looking for them.


72 posted on 03/20/2008 1:51:58 AM PDT by U S Army EOD (Say Cheese.)
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To: IncPen

ping


73 posted on 03/20/2008 2:08:43 AM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: Gomez; tanuki; txzman; Boundless; xone; Oztrich Boy; Eurale; Farmer Dean; nmh; DuncanWaring; ...
Incredible story as to how the Sydney was found.

Sydney found by joining up German's dots

74 posted on 03/24/2008 3:13:32 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: U S Army EOD
I just read the article again and it says they were found ten miles apart. That is a pretty long way if there was only a surface search. We don’t really know if anyone was even looking for them.

They weren't. Single ship encounter.

The Kormoran crew took to the lifeboats Midnight 19 November 1941. First raft of survivors picked up 23 November by transport Aquitania (operating under W/T silence).

First report of the action and the possible fate of the now overdue Sydney reported 1700 (Western Australian time) on 24 November 1941 by tanker Trocas which picked up another group of Kormoran survivors.

Search didn;t begin until 4 days after the action.

Air search found more boats from 0700 25 November.

http://www.navy.gov.au/spc/history/ships/sydney2a.html

75 posted on 03/24/2008 4:09:39 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the blind obedience of fools - Solon, Lawmaker of Athens)
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To: Oztrich Boy

5 days after. I suck at math.


76 posted on 03/24/2008 4:10:35 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the blind obedience of fools - Solon, Lawmaker of Athens)
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To: naturalman1975

Quite an interesting article; thank you very much for the ping and the update :-)


77 posted on 03/24/2008 4:19:03 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Gomez

Wreck of HMAS Sydney found
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1986730/posts


78 posted on 03/24/2008 5:12:09 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: PAR35; Gomez

Sorry about that. Meant to post a link to the new thread:

(HMAS) Sydney found by joining up German’s dots (fascinating story) http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1990905/posts


79 posted on 03/24/2008 5:15:20 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: PzLdr
Wasn’t as big a screwup as the Captain of HMS GLORIOUS, who managed to get his aircraft carrier sunk by the SCHARNHORST and GNIESENAU [although I believe the shelling was done by SCHARNHORST].

Especially in view of the fact he was rushing off with a mere two destroyer escort for the sole purpose of getting back to Scapa Flow in time for a court marshal of a senior officer of the Glorious with whom he had a personal vendetta.

80 posted on 03/24/2008 6:13:30 PM PDT by skeeter
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