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To: ovrtaxt

“Religious people killed scores of famous martyrs throughout history, in fact.”

So, they were all famous martyrs before they were killed? Had they been killed by non-religious people, would they still have been “martyred”? I’m trying to get 4 out of what should be a matter of simply putting two and two together but there’something about that statement that doesn’t want to add up. No offense but...


39 posted on 03/07/2008 4:05:32 AM PST by equaviator ("There's a plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: equaviator

No, they’re famous now, largely because of John Foxe.

And you’re a martyr if you die for refusing to deny your faith. Doesn’t matter what the murderer’s motivation is, but it’s usually religious in nature.


40 posted on 03/07/2008 4:09:03 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Member of the irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.)
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