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Home schooling unlawful, says California court
OneNewsNow ^ | 3/6/2008 | Allie Martin and Jody Brown

Posted on 03/06/2008 1:31:14 PM PST by fweingart

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To: DAC22
Me thinks this heads for the Supreme Court, and soon.

That would stink. What a rotten case...makes homeschoolers look bad.

181 posted on 03/06/2008 6:15:16 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Wil H
But educating illegal aliens in State schools at taxpayer expense is just fine..

Precisely. If anarchy is the standard, make the best of it, Californians. Tell them, "I'll enroll my kids in public school when you send all illegals back to Mexico."
182 posted on 03/06/2008 6:16:24 PM PST by farmer18th (Conservatives who vote McCain are like abused dogs who keep licking their master's hand...)
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To: Spktyr
Time for people with kids to LEAVE the Peepul’s Republik of Kaleeephonia.

On the contrary, it's time for the remnant to start speaking the truth. Pagans and sodomites are fearful dolts; a few righteous men could turn California completely around. Have you seen what MASSresistance is doing back there in Kennedy's state? If you want to be a real son of liberty, you've got to stay in the battle.
183 posted on 03/06/2008 6:20:54 PM PST by farmer18th (Conservatives who vote McCain are like abused dogs who keep licking their master's hand...)
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To: calex59; Lx

I live in El Dorado Hills, and most people I’ve met are conservative..I hope it remains so with all the people moving in from San Fran and LA..


184 posted on 03/06/2008 6:22:21 PM PST by pesto
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To: farmer18th

Judge Croskey is obviously expecting his ruling to be upheld by the future liberal-dominated USSC appointed by President Obama/Clinton/McCain . . .


185 posted on 03/06/2008 6:23:49 PM PST by Liberty Wins
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To: Gondring

And another thing...

Whatever I had to submit to the local school at the end of the school year (e.g. test scores), I had the school copy in my presence for *my* records. I also required them to stamp my copies with their “received” stamp, dated and initialed. After all, if they lost stuff, it would be my word against the machine.

One year, in late summer, I received a call from the school, asking for the paperwork that *I was supposed to turn in* (see what I mean?) a few months earlier. Well I just happened to be sitting next to my files, and pulled out my copy with the received stamp, informing the school representative of the date I submitted the documentation. Ooops, guess he’d better look harder for his copy. A few weeks later another person called for the same reason, so I had to repeat myself. They stopped calling after that. If I didn’t have those copies, I would have been the guilty party by default. That could have become a nightmare.


186 posted on 03/06/2008 6:24:34 PM PST by Ezekiel
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To: fweingart

My mother taught me more in my first 5 years of life, than the schools taught me up untill the 2nd grade. I knew all by colors, shapes, numbers, letters. I could read and wrtie and do simple math as well. I have also been able to learn more on my own then I ever learned in public school.


187 posted on 03/06/2008 6:29:53 PM PST by LukeL
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To: fweingart

This won’t survive a substantive due process attack. SCOTUS precedent form cases such as Meyers v. Nebraska and Pierce v. Society of Sisters will allow for homeschooling. The Court has recognized a fundamental right to privacy in matters such as the rearing of children which includes education.

Any there any attorneys posting on this story?


188 posted on 03/06/2008 6:30:04 PM PST by conservativeinferno (My SUV is the urban squirrel's worst predator.)
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To: fweingart

In Re Petitioners vs Superior Court (California Court Upholds Laws That Permit Homeschooling)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1981634/posts

So which is correct?


189 posted on 03/06/2008 6:35:11 PM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: Puppage

Indoctrination is exactly what this is about. The school only wanted the family’s 2 youngest children who would be easier to brainwash than the older ones who have been taught the Bible since they were young.


190 posted on 03/06/2008 6:37:22 PM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: fweingart

I though we had another thread that said that this didn’t make home schooling illegal but made it so home school teachers had to get certified.


191 posted on 03/06/2008 6:39:41 PM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: fweingart

bttt


192 posted on 03/06/2008 6:44:01 PM PST by Guenevere (If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all.)
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To: Gondring
You mention molestation downthread from my comment and then accuse me of a "sick" comparison? Nice try. My "dishes" comment was a response to your quote:

Of course, it doesn't sound like these were the best home schoolers out there. In fact, this is rather bizarre:

Over the years, the parents of the children have given various reasons for not sending the children to school. Although previously they stated they do not believe in the policies of the public school system, more recently they have asserted that they home school because of their religious beliefs. The father also recently opined that educating children outside the home exposes them to “snitches.”


Just out of curiosity, when did you first know of the molestation accusation and removal of the three children? Before or after the aforementioned post?
193 posted on 03/06/2008 6:46:09 PM PST by stentorian conservative (Ignore Napolean's Dogs. . . Vote your conscience.)
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To: Rennes Templar
I’m not there, but if I were, I’d organize and fight. Enough is enough.

I'd like to see enough Constituionalist Conservatives emigrate from other states into California so that control of the government could be fully wrested from the socialists.

Immediately thereafter, every socialist law on the books could be canceled. The income tax could be eliminated. All services for illegals could be eliminated. Penalties for hiring illegals could be created and enforced. The entire Bill of Rights could be reinforced. Anti-growth and anti-business policies could be eliminated. Freeway funds could be spent on freeways. Car pool lanes could be eliminated. Government schools could be reformed or eliminated. Nuclear power plants could be built. Oil could be pumped. Trees could be cut. Mines could be mined. We could tell Washington to piss off whenever necessary. Etc.

Within twenty years, we would be the most prosperous and attractive state in the world.

194 posted on 03/06/2008 6:49:11 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: mad_as_he$$
The snow has stopped now. There's a couple of inches on the ground, pretty wet stuff.

The kids next door built a snowman and a snowfort -- cool!

195 posted on 03/06/2008 6:53:11 PM PST by ThePythonicCow (By their false faith in Man as God, the left would destroy us. They call this faith change.)
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To: ThePythonicCow
Hope it melts in time for morning drive time.
196 posted on 03/06/2008 6:56:39 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (John McCain - The Manchurian Candidate? http://www.usvetdsp.com/manchuan.htm)
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To: Earthdweller

Yes.


197 posted on 03/06/2008 7:02:53 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: fweingart

Dr. Dobson Outraged by California Ruling Banning
Home Schooling

 

by Jennifer Mesko, managing editor

Focus chairman calls it an 'all-out assault on the family.'

A state appeals court has decided California parents without teaching credentials do not have a right to home-school their children.

The 2nd District Court of Appeals ruling could affect up to 200,000 home-schooled students in the state.

“The court is guilty of an imperious assault on the rights of parents,” said Dr. James Dobson, founder and chairman of Focus on the Family. “How dare these judges have the audacity to label tens of thousands of parents criminals — the equivalent to drug dealers or pickpockets — because they want to raise and educate their children according to their deeply held values?

"The case before them involved one couple — the ruling should have been confined to that one couple, not used to punish an entire class of people, the vast majority of them religious conservatives.”

According to the Home School Legal Defense Association, California is set to become the only state to deny the vast majority of home schooling parents their fundamental right to teach their children at home. The group will file an amicus brief in the case.

Dr. Dobson said Focus on the Family will do whatever it can to get the ruling overturned and to restore the basic rights of parents in California to determine how their children are educated.

“This is an all-out assault on the family, and it must be met with a concerted effort to defend parents and their children,” he said. “We will team with key allies and use every means at our disposal to make sure that not just every Californian, but every American, is aware of this miscarriage of justice. We will encourage them, by the hundreds of thousands, to make their voices heard on this matter.

"And we’re hopeful that, in the end, common sense and legal sanity will prevail.”

Dr. Dobson will discuss the ruling on his Friday radio broadcast.

Candi Cushman, education analyst for Focus on the Family Action, said the court's timing is horrible.

"This takes away recourse from thousands of parents in California who want to escape the government-enforced indoctrination in public schools," she said. "The Legislature recently passed a law that basically ensures that students get a one-sided, positive portrayal of homosexuality and same-sex 'marriage.' "

TAKE ACTION
We are asking concerned citizens across America to sign a petition asking the state Supreme Court to "depublish" the case, which means to apply the case to the family involved — not to all California families.

LISTEN TO THE BROADCAST
Dr. Dobson will discuss the California ruling on his Friday radio broadcast. Find a station or listen online.


198 posted on 03/06/2008 7:17:04 PM PST by XR7
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To: XR7
here is an example of the wonderful enlightenment of facts and educational experience available in California public schools. I took this photo today at the University of Irvine California campus.....
199 posted on 03/06/2008 7:27:37 PM PST by KTM rider (Why cut off your nose to spite your face, when you can just hold it instead)
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To: KTM rider

All white flags too.


200 posted on 03/06/2008 7:29:55 PM PST by XR7
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