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Don’t Forget Ron Paul
Patterico's Pontifications ^ | March 06, 2008 | Staff

Posted on 03/06/2008 7:16:40 AM PST by jdm

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To: green iguana; Larebil
But calling him a goosestepper is way off the mark.

I kind of agree that one is over the line. All it does is distract from policy problems Conservatives have with him.

61 posted on 03/06/2008 8:30:07 AM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehrling

That gift that keeps on giving. Life is short, crazy is forever...


63 posted on 03/06/2008 8:35:02 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery.)
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To: mnehrling
Ping, looks like the laughs will continue for a while.

Good...we need some comic relief during this bleak election season. ;-)

64 posted on 03/06/2008 8:38:00 AM PST by Allegra (Posting without being logged on since 2001)
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To: F15Eagle
Still looking for that one but I found another doozy.
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/ROLL_500.asp
(See #500 and #513)...
..if anything, he is consistent as being the stand-alone vote (along with his buddy Kucinich) in not wanting to condemn genocide.
65 posted on 03/06/2008 8:42:56 AM PST by mnehring
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To: F15Eagle

I believe it was an amendment as part of #899 here:
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/ROLL_800.asp


66 posted on 03/06/2008 8:46:16 AM PST by mnehring
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To: Larebil

“The fact that he is barely a blip on the radar means that there is still some sanity left.”

Does it? Or does it mean we have SERIOUSLY lost our way? Listen to Reagan’s 1968 convention speach and then compare it to things Paul is saying. It’s eyeopening. I didn’t vote for Ron Paul but after I investigated for myself and quit letting others tell me what he stood for I gained a lot of respect for him.


67 posted on 03/06/2008 8:49:49 AM PST by Cyclone Conservative
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To: mnehrling
..if anything, he is consistent as being the stand-alone vote (along with his buddy Kucinich) in not wanting to condemn genocide.

For Paul it all comes down to the Constitution - if the Constitution does not specifically authorize Congress to act on all of the particulars a bill contains, he votes against it. Makes for some interesting votes for sure, but also explains why he's arguably the biggest supporter of the second amendment in Congress.

69 posted on 03/06/2008 8:53:59 AM PST by green iguana
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To: green iguana
For Paul it all comes down to the Constitution - if the Constitution does not specifically authorize Congress to act on all of the particulars a bill contains, he votes against it.

But in this case, the Constitution specifically authorizes Congress to do just that. Article 1, section 8, subsection 10 (a clause Paul quite frequently overlooks)- Congress is authorized to define and punish offenses against the laws of nations. The Constitution doesn't limit what the 'punishment' is, it leaves that for congress to define as it sees fit. It does, however, in several areas indicate that treaties are to be considered high law of the land and must be honored. We have several international treaties in which we are co signatories agreeing to condemn any acts of genocide.

Like in many other cases, Paul simply likes to pick and choose from the Constitution in order to fit his view while claiming his view is defined by the Constitution.

70 posted on 03/06/2008 8:59:54 AM PST by mnehring
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To: F15Eagle

>> Are you saying Ron Paul still actually has a chance of winning the GOP nomination?

Why, sure. He has as much chance as you do, or I do.

By the way, if nominated, I will not run.


71 posted on 03/06/2008 9:08:49 AM PST by Nervous Tick (I've decided to vote for John McCain in December. It's the Maverick Thing To Do.)
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To: mnehrling

I never demonized him, and I deplore that sort of name-calling, even if the target is a Dem.

My criticism of Peden was that he was backed by a GOP establishment that hadn’t shown much competence in picking strong candidates (e.g. Shelley Sekula-Gibbs). That, and he was backed by figures in the national GOP establishment, such as Pat Ruffini, who seemed to have a vendetta against Paul for his anti-war position. I don’t think that the GOP should engage in cleansing itself of Republicans who take heterodox positions.

The endorsements from such papers as the Galveston County Daily News seemed to be plaints that Paul wasn’t bringing home “their share” of the booty from the taxpayers. Well, if it wasn’t for misguided self-interest masquerading as acting in the public interest, we wouldn’t have a massive federal government.

Finally, Wonkette’s endorsement of Peden and characterization of Paul’s campaign as “wierd” did nothing but elevate Paul and downgrade Peden in my eyes. There is no better barometer of the top-of-mind DC cocktail party circuit opinion than the blatherings of that strumpet.

In the end, what Paul did is something that a so-called mainstream conservative (if we define this as being pro-WoT) couldn’t do, which is open the minds of those who are anti-war to conservative ideas. They may never agree with us on the war, but might be allies on other issues in the future.


72 posted on 03/06/2008 9:17:41 AM PST by oblomov
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To: F15Eagle

You have my vote.


74 posted on 03/06/2008 9:25:04 AM PST by mnehring
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To: Vaquero

75 posted on 03/06/2008 9:28:08 AM PST by CJ Wolf (The Ron Paul - Let Freedom Ping list - freepmail me to be on it.)
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To: F15Eagle

“F15Eagle — Change You Can Take To The Bank!”

You have my vote sir!


76 posted on 03/06/2008 9:34:36 AM PST by Nervous Tick (I've decided to vote for John McCain in December. It's the Maverick Thing To Do.)
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To: CJ Wolf

HA, you would not belive how ridiculous you look when you use that thing.

It is a killer on the shoulders.


77 posted on 03/06/2008 9:50:22 AM PST by Larebil (My name is liberal backwards, since they backwards thinking)
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To: jdm

Ron who?


78 posted on 03/06/2008 9:50:58 AM PST by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: mnehrling
It was sad how he was demonized as a ‘neocon fascist’ by many of his supporters.

The ironic thing is that Peden is actually pretty damned libertarian, which is more or less the polar opposite of neoconservative. I agree he's a good dude, but it really was hilarious as hell to rub his loss in the face of the more obnoxious anti-Paulites.

Peden got pwned

79 posted on 03/06/2008 9:54:25 AM PST by jmc813 (March is a stupid month)
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To: Nervous Tick
By the way, if nominated, I will not run.

Tough. I'm organizing a write-in campaign for you anyway!

80 posted on 03/06/2008 9:54:31 AM PST by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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