[SE Mom]

Feinman also saying Hillary wants to go on...no matter what. Howard says the thing about it is- there’s no joy- there’s grim determination.

[cajungirl]

Hillary without joy makes me want a nice baileys on ice. THe new caramel baileys.

Here is my guess. Obama brings it out, Hillary undermines him. He wins but is a one termer and she challenges him four years from now. Or Obama loses to McCain who is a one termer and Hill comes back four years from now.

We are not done with that woman. Not by a long shot.

[Miss Didi]

Howard says the thing about it is- there’s no joy- there’s grim determination.

Oh, there's gotta be joy! ;)