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Dicks says he'll block efforts to lift gun ban
thenewstribune.com (WA) ^ | March 2nd, 2008 | Les Blumenthal

Posted on 03/03/2008 10:58:19 AM PST by neverdem

Dicks vows to block bid to lift ban on loaded weapons in national parks WASHINGTON – With a showdown looming, U.S. Rep. Norm Dicks says he’s prepared to block any effort by the administration to lift the current ban on carrying loaded weapons in national parks. It’s not an idle threat.

As chairman of the House Appropriations interior subcommittee, Dicks oversees the National Parks Service’s annual budget and is in a position to prevent the administration from dropping the Reagan-era ban. While the Washington Democrat is usually reluctant to add legislative provisions to his spending bill, he is ready to make an exception in this case even if it prompts a presidential veto.

“Every now and then something rises up that needs to be fought and this is one of them,” Dicks said.

The ban, and efforts by the National Rifle Association to lift it, has emerged as a major Second Amendment issue in this election year. Democrats say Republicans are using it as a “wedge” to exploit gun issues in an already heated political atmosphere. Republicans say they are just trying to protect the rights of gun owners.

The dispute already has interrupted consideration of a massive public lands bill in the Senate, which included the creation of the 100,000-acre Wild Sky Wilderness area north of Seattle.

Interior Secretary Dirk Kempthorne has said the ban is under review and a new regulation will be released April 30 that will update firearms policies in the national parks and wildlife refuges.

Current regulations ban loaded weapons in the federal parks and refuges. Unloaded weapons can be carried if they are locked in a safe place such as a car trunk.

Dicks said his counterpart in the Senate, Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., has told him she would use her position as chairman of the Senate Appropriations interior subcommittee to also block any changes in the current regulations.

“Permitting loaded firearms to be carried or used within our national parks or wildlife refuges would be a radical, unprecedented change that would likely upset the delicate balance that exists between wildlife and park visitors in these areas,” Dicks and Feinstein said in a letter to Kempthorne.

“More importantly,” the letter continued, “allowing loaded and accessible weapons in national parks would create a dangerous environment for millions of American families who annually visit our national parks expecting a safe and enjoyable experience – not loaded firearms and stray bullets.”

Dicks was an early supporter of efforts to ban handguns and assault weapons, in part because of the violence that so long flared in the Hilltop area of Tacoma.

“Everyone knows when you have guns, bad things happen,” Dicks said in an interview.

Dicks called the effort to lift the ban on loaded weapons in the parks a mistake and vowed to “fight it all the way. If this ban was good enough for the Reagan administration and James Watt, why isn’t it good enough now?”

Watt was President Reagan’s controversial interior secretary when regulations involving guns in the parks were last revised. The ban actually dates to 1936 amid concerns of illegal hunting and poaching in the parks.

Washington state’s two senators also oppose any change in the current regulations.

“Park rangers and conservationists have pointed to the reasonable gun regulations in our national parks as a reason they are some of the safest places in America,” said Sen. Patty Murray, D-Wash.

Murray was also upset the issue had interfered with passages of the Wild Sky Wilderness legislation, which was yanked from the floor when Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., a longtime gun-rights advocate, said he would offer an amendment to the public lands bill lifting the ban.

“A bill creating new wilderness land for future generations shouldn’t be the grounds for ideological battles to be waged,” Murray said.

Democrat U.S. Rep. Adam Smith and Republican U.S. Rep. Dave Reichert have yet to take a stand, though Reichert, a former King County sheriff, is talking with former park rangers.

A retired park rangers association and the National Parks Conservation Association adamantly oppose any change in the current regulations.

“It’s truly unfortunate the National Rifle Association has chosen this issue to flex its election-year political muscle,” said Tom Kiernan, president of the National Parks Conservation Association.

The NRA fired back.

“Law abiding citizens should not be prohibited from protecting themselves and their families while enjoying America’s national parks and wildlife refuges,” said Chris Cox, the NRA’s chief lobbyist. “Under this proposal, federal parks and wildlife refuges will mirror the state firearms laws for state parks. This is an important step in the right direction.”

Les Blumenthal: 202-383-0008 lblumenthal@mcclatchydc.com


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: 110th; banglist; democratparty; dicks; feinstein; gunfreezone; nationalparks
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Donkeys v. Donkeys, this can't hurt.

The plan already has won support from a bipartisan majority of the Senate, including Arizona's John McCain, the GOP's presumptive presidential nominee and one of 41 Republican senators backing the plan. Nine Democrats have joined the effort.

1 posted on 03/03/2008 10:58:20 AM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Rep. Dicks’ name is an example of truth in labeling if I’ve ever seen one.


2 posted on 03/03/2008 11:00:11 AM PST by PeterFinn (I am not voting for McCain. No way, no how.)
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To: neverdem
“Everyone knows when you have guns, bad things happen,” Dicks said in an interview

Knee-jerk IDIOT.
3 posted on 03/03/2008 11:03:13 AM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; The majority are satisfied with a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: traviskicks

ping...


4 posted on 03/03/2008 11:03:32 AM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; The majority are satisfied with a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: neverdem
“Everyone knows when you have guns, bad things happen,” Dicks said in an interview.

What a Dicks!

5 posted on 03/03/2008 11:04:33 AM PST by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: neverdem

So hikers and park visitors can’t protect themselves from the Federal Government programs that bring back (re-introduced) wolves and grizzle bears? What is wrong with this picture?


6 posted on 03/03/2008 11:06:48 AM PST by vox_freedom (MacBook Pro 2.4, 160 gig, w/ 500 gig Western Digital back up drive)
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To: PeterFinn

Will he have opposition this year by someone who respects 2nd Amendment freedoms?


7 posted on 03/03/2008 11:07:55 AM PST by vox_freedom
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To: neverdem

This issue will be the gift that keeps on giving. One of two things can happen and they are both good.

1. We get the ban lifted and Americans get more of the constitutional rights back.

2. The ban does not get lifted and its prevented by a democrat. Benefitting Republicans running for Congress everywhere and hopefully Obama gets questioned about it during debates.


8 posted on 03/03/2008 11:09:12 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: neverdem
“Everyone knows when you have guns, bad things happen,” Dicks said in an interview.

I guess the Capitol Police and others who guard your worthless ass everday, don't need guns either, huh asshole?

9 posted on 03/03/2008 11:18:58 AM PST by DocH (mccain in between two oafs of (liberal) dread - ahnold & rudy = RINO SANDWICH)
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To: neverdem
“More importantly,” the letter continued, “allowing loaded and accessible weapons in national parks would create a dangerous environment for millions of American families who annually visit our national parks expecting a safe and enjoyable experience – not loaded firearms and stray bullets.”

What a jerk! National Parks are not the big city. Folks have been carrying in National Forests for decades without bullets flying.

10 posted on 03/03/2008 11:19:29 AM PST by Inyo-Mono (If you don't want people to get your goat, don't tell them where it's tied.)
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To: neverdem; Joe Brower
"We need to keep our parks safe for serial killers and predators like Gary Michael Hilton, so that they can continue to kidnap, rape and murder, without fearing that some crazy gun-toting college girl hiker might harm them."


11 posted on 03/03/2008 11:20:55 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: vox_freedom
Will he have opposition this year by someone who respects 2nd Amendment freedoms?

In the Soviet Socialist Democrat Republic of Washington State, it doesn't make much difference.

A few years back, if you remember, we had apparently elected a pro RKBA governer. That was until Queen Christine and her cohort Ron Sims "found" enough "lost" ballots to swing the election her way. In...I believe...what was it? 3 or 4 recounts?

"Frustrating" doesn't even come close to describing how many of us here feel.
12 posted on 03/03/2008 11:22:22 AM PST by rickomatic
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To: neverdem

I’m guessing this guy has never fired a single round in his life.


13 posted on 03/03/2008 11:23:45 AM PST by navyguy (Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue.)
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To: neverdem

Don’t worry Mr DICKs. I would never use my firearm to save your life.


14 posted on 03/03/2008 11:24:34 AM PST by Niteranger68 (Where are they hiding Obama’s white half?)
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To: neverdem

“Donkeys v. Donkeys, this can’t hurt.”

Agree for sure.

I have noticed that the Dem’s have been laying low this time around on the gun issue. I suspect that their objective is to sneak this issue by any pro-gun voters who may be considering voting democrat. Then, once they have their chosen POTUS in office, and with control of both houses, watch out. The anti-gun bills will be flying off the shelves. Also, we will see a much emboldened ATF, more Ruby Ridge kind of incidents, etc...


15 posted on 03/03/2008 11:25:20 AM PST by snoringbear (')
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To: neverdem

Dear Rep Dicks,

Please quit dicking me. I am a law abiding, duly CCW permitted American citizen who carries.

To get to our dental appointments, among other things, my choices are to illegally drive through Wind Cave National Park; or, stop at the (non-guarded) entrance on US HWY 385 and unload & stow my weapon, and drive to the opposite side of the park & retrieve,reload, and reholster; or detour around the Park, adding approximately 20 extra miles of driving each way...and repeat for the return.

Again, Rep Dicks, please quit dicking me!


16 posted on 03/03/2008 11:27:08 AM PST by ApplegateRanch (God wants a Liberal or RINO hanging from every tree. Tar & feathers optional extras.)
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To: neverdem

“Norm Dicks”?? I wouldn’t show my face, much less attack American’s Constitutional rights.


17 posted on 03/03/2008 11:29:08 AM PST by ozzymandus
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To: neverdem
I should have added the irony of being disarmed by the government at Mount Rushmore, ‘The Shrine of Freedom’.

That is another drive-through on both US & State Routes; park & visit are just optional.

Same for Grand Teton, in Wyoming, where I enjoy reciprocity for my permit; some with parks in Utah and other states that are drive-through rather than a destination.

18 posted on 03/03/2008 11:38:51 AM PST by ApplegateRanch (God wants a Liberal or RINO hanging from every tree. Tar & feathers optional extras.)
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To: neverdem

The sheer idiocy of this guy is stunning, even for a Dem. The simple fact is that there are threats to life and limb in the national parks, from both 2-legged and 4-legged creatures. To deny the right to self-defense to those who have already been licensed to carry and gone through background checks and classes is absurd - if they cannot be trusted by the government, then the government itself cannot be trusted.

I hope that this guy has effective opposition, and that the NRA and other pro-gun organizations make sure that his opponent in November is well-funded.


19 posted on 03/03/2008 11:41:52 AM PST by Ancesthntr (An ex-citizen of the Frederation trying to stop Monica's Ex-Boyfriend's Wife from becoming President)
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To: neverdem
“Permitting loaded firearms to be carried or used within our national parks or wildlife refuges would be a radical, unprecedented change that would likely upset the delicate balance that exists between wildlife and park visitors in these areas,” Dicks and Feinstein said in a letter to Kempthorne.

It really boggles the mind that anyone is this amazingly stupid -- not just these two libdolts, but the libdolts who vote for them...

20 posted on 03/03/2008 11:42:22 AM PST by piytar
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