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New Jersey: Obama-McCain a Toss-Up
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| March 2, 2008
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Posted on 03/02/2008 3:43:15 PM PST by reagandissiple
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To: Jane Austen
Any truth to the report that McCain is meeting with Lieberman and other liberals this weekend, perhaps to discuss a Dem. VP?
Haven’t heard but it wouldn’t surprise me. Joe is Juanito’s kind of “conservative.”
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posted on
03/02/2008 7:05:16 PM PST
by
Grunthor
(Of two evils, choose neither - Charles Spurgeon)
To: Baladas
To me the only thing that makes sense is motor voter.
A similar thing happened in Pennsylvania. Since ‘94, there has been a rather large increase in voter registration — with no similar increase in population.
Now whether there is actual vote fraud or not is another story.
To: reagandissiple
If NJ is a toss-up I wonder what that says for PA. If Obama loses PA he’s toast.
To: ZULU
“The fact that Clinton beats out McCain but Obama doesnt reflects the very serious racial divides in New Jersey which has one of the largest minority populations in America and one of the most Democratic.”
This would tend to verify Robert Putnam’s assertions in “Bowling Alone” that in areas of mixed cultures and ethnic groups, people of one group are, by and large, distrustful of those of other ethnic groups.
Unlike the whites of, say - Iowa or Vermont (lily-white states), those in New Jersey have learned from experience about the conflicts between groups other than their own. They won’t be as predisposed to faint for the Obamessiah.
- John
To: SoConPubbie
“Really does not matter if you believe he is materially different from John McCain because of the following scenario that WILL play out if John McCain is elected:
John McCain will grant amnesty to 20-40 million+ Illegal Aliens who will vote 70%+ Democrat (As they always have).
The resultant imbalance of majority Democrat votes will force the GOP into minority status for decades to come.
On top of that, millions of conservatives will leave the GOP because of John McCain’s treachery further deepening the imbalance of GOP votes to Democrat votes.
The final ‘nail in the coffin’ will be his total inaction against chain-migration that will bring millions more Democrat votes into the equation.”
You just described George W. Bush. Like it or not this is the Republican Party. Get on board and work from the inside to fix it our get out of the way.
To: TrueConservative2000
You just described George W. Bush. Like it or not this is the Republican Party. Get on board and work from the inside to fix it our get out of the way.
Wrong!
And this is not the GOP, this is the RNC and the GOP Elites.
When 80% of your base (vis-a-vis McCain-Kennedy) tell you to stop it and you don't listen, you are no longer talking about the GOP but a few people who are in control of the party and hold positions of power who are going to push this till they die.
Furthermore, that is not GWB because the crop of Senators and House Members we had during the McCain-Kennedy debacle still were listening to their constituents and were still in the majority and were persuaded to turn their back on the Amnesty crap.
The scenario we are facing now is much, much different:
1. Democrats are out-raising Republicans (Obama + Hillary) 82 million to (McCain - The Presumptive GOP nominee) 12 million.
2. Democrats are turning out at close to a 2-1 margin of voters during the primaries with respect to Republicans
3. There are 30 or 40 + seats that Republican Incumbants have walked away from after reading the handwriting on the wall.
This means that not only will we have a President who whole-heartedly supports Amnesty, we will have a deepening majority of Senators and House members who will also support Amnesty. They're called Democrats.
Finally, I refuse to cede my party, the GOP, to the likes of John McAmnesty or any others of their ilk by voting in John McAmnesty.
I will write in the name of a GOP conservative for President, unless John McCain totally refutes his past stands on Amnesty and promises to enforce the current laws on the book concerning Illegal Aliens.
I will fight 'tooth and nail' for all CONSERVATIVE GOP candidates down-stream who deserve my vote.
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posted on
03/02/2008 8:37:42 PM PST
by
SoConPubbie
(GOP: If you reward bad behavior all you get is more bad behavior.)
To: SoConPubbie
Then Republicans better get their act together and support the next amnesty bill or they will cede the Hispanic vote to the Dims.
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posted on
03/02/2008 9:19:32 PM PST
by
End Times Crusader
(John McCain - Leadership in the fight for sensible immigration reform)
To: reagandissiple
Wow! If Obama can’t decisively win a liberal socialist toilet like New Jersey, he’s toast in civilized states.
To: End Times Crusader; All
Then Republicans better get their act together and support the next amnesty bill or they will cede the Hispanic vote to the Dims.
And another mask comes off!
Here my friends is the face of the new RNC and he is also one of the most avid McAmnesty supporters!
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posted on
03/02/2008 9:42:25 PM PST
by
SoConPubbie
(GOP: If you reward bad behavior all you get is more bad behavior.)
To: SoConPubbie
The new RNC and the new GOP. Now we will be able to win in a landslide thanks to the new blood being brought in thanks to John McCain. Independents, McCain Democrats, and Hispanics are all important to the new Republican coalition.
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posted on
03/02/2008 9:50:22 PM PST
by
End Times Crusader
(John McCain - Leadership in the fight for fair and sensible immigration reform)
To: reagandissiple
But doesn't this mean that Hispanics will be thankful to McCain, and therefore many will vote for him?
I really don't think so. Reagan granted amnesty and I do not believe that the GOP recieved a great influx of Hispanic voters after that.
GWB had the highest percentage.
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posted on
03/02/2008 10:09:21 PM PST
by
SoConPubbie
(GOP: If you reward bad behavior all you get is more bad behavior.)
To: End Times Crusader
Hispanics voted 70-30 against the GOP in 1988, the first election after the Reagan amnesty. They’ll vote 75-25 against the GOP after the next one, and 80-20 against the GOP after the amnestied illegals begin voting. And that’s even if the GOP leads the charge for the amnesty proposal.
You’re a Democrat troll.
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posted on
03/03/2008 5:38:30 AM PST
by
puroresu
(Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
To: reagandissiple
Yes, it’s you. There are many states automatically Democrat.
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posted on
03/03/2008 5:45:17 AM PST
by
Theodore R.
( Cowardice is still forever!)
To: Fishrrman
Interesting point.
I think in areas where people have not “mixed in” and have a history of thinking of themselves as hyphenated Americans
(I hate it when people hyphenate me because of my last name) instead of just plain Americans, this is true.
New Jersey has come far in the pat few years in being more inclusive, but it still contains ethnic commnunities where people identify closely with their ancestral origins.
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posted on
03/03/2008 7:27:00 AM PST
by
ZULU
(Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
To: Theodore R.
Barone is right and there a boatload of “progressive” whites and Hispanics that wont be voting for a Black white wine liberal who grew up Muslim.(ie NJ , Mi,WI, Pa are all in play) You can throw your little formula in the terlit.
To: Nonstatist
Are you of the view that much of Obama’s support is anti-HRC and little else?
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posted on
03/03/2008 9:53:13 AM PST
by
Theodore R.
( Cowardice is still forever!)
To: Theodore R.
Are you of the view that much of Obamas support is anti-HRC and little else?More like vice versa. She'd have been eliminated a while ago if not for "anti-Black" Hispanics and working class whites. Thats why he cant seem to close the deal, despite the whole hearted support of the media elite, IMO.
To: reagandissiple
I don’t believe this poll. This may shock you, but Hillary supporters will lie to pollsters by saying they would vote for McCain over Obama bin liberal.
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posted on
03/03/2008 11:10:58 AM PST
by
Always Right
(Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
To: ought-six
Actually, didn’t NJ just pass a law stating that there electoral votes will go to the winner of the national popular vote? If so then there is no point in campaigning there. It also places it up for grabs for the Republicans for the first time in years.
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posted on
03/03/2008 11:17:19 AM PST
by
Round 9
To: TitansAFC; meandog; onyx; MARTIAL MONK; Kuksool; freespirited; Salvation; furquhart; mossyoaks; ...
The McCain List.
New Jersey
McCain 45%
Obama 43%
McCain 39%
Hillary 50%
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posted on
03/03/2008 2:59:31 PM PST
by
Norman Bates
(Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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