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New Jersey: Obama-McCain a Toss-Up
Rasmussen Reports ^ | March 2, 2008 | Rasmussen Reports

Posted on 03/02/2008 3:43:15 PM PST by reagandissiple

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To: SoConPubbie
How about given the almost 2 to 1 numbers of democrat voters vs Republican voters during the primaries?

I have news for you. In 2004, twice as many Democrats voted in the primaries compared to Republicans. Who's the president now? let's just say it's not John Kerry.

In 1988 again 22 million Democrats voted in the primaries compared to 13 million Republicans. Let's just say Dukakis did not become president.

There is no bigger nonsense than to imply that primary turnout equals General election success.

http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/article.php?id=FRC2008011701

41 posted on 03/02/2008 4:56:48 PM PST by reagandissiple
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To: ZULU
in other words, a real republican is someone who loses elections. Reagan can't be a real republican because he won New Jersey, NY and California.

42 posted on 03/02/2008 5:00:12 PM PST by ari-freedom (Thank you Bill.)
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To: Grunthor

Read reply 42.


43 posted on 03/02/2008 5:03:55 PM PST by nwrep
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To: ZULU
Any Republican who can arry New Jersey in a Presidential Election can’t be a Republican.

Such as Ronald Reagan... Sarcasm aside, actually New Jersey usually always voted GOP - it didn't switch over until 1992.

Here's a good resource to look at electoral maps from elections past: http://www.presidentelect.org/e1988.html

44 posted on 03/02/2008 5:17:23 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: ari-freedom

http://www.presidentelect.org/e1988.html

You can find a lot more maps there - historically NJ usually has gone GOP - didn’t lean Dem until the 1992 election forward - so it does have some underlying GOP history to it that could maybe pop up again.


45 posted on 03/02/2008 5:18:44 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: ari-freedom

Comparing McCain to Reagan is akin to comparing a diamond to the fecal material of a canine.


46 posted on 03/02/2008 5:19:38 PM PST by Grunthor (Of two evils, choose neither - Charles Spurgeon)
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To: Grunthor

He didn’t compare McCain to Reagan - he was responding to the comment that no real Republican could ever carry New Jersey.


47 posted on 03/02/2008 5:20:52 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat

“he was responding to the comment that no real Republican could ever carry New Jersey.”

“Could ever” and “have in the past” are vastly different things. Kind of like “Conservative” and “Republican.”

Once upon a time they almost mean’t the same thing.


48 posted on 03/02/2008 5:22:34 PM PST by Grunthor (Of two evils, choose neither - Charles Spurgeon)
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To: reagandissiple

Obama is cooked.

Its over.


49 posted on 03/02/2008 5:25:55 PM PST by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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To: Republican Wildcat

Any theories as to why NJ turned that blue that fast?


50 posted on 03/02/2008 5:33:02 PM PST by Baladas
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To: VRWC For Truth

I see we disagree, thanks.


51 posted on 03/02/2008 5:38:13 PM PST by America-The-Great-1967 (Don't fix the blame, fix the problem.)
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To: muir_redwoods

“If NJ is a toss up for Obama and McCain, Obama hasn’t a chance in the rest of the country. NJ, CA, NY, MA and CT are automatics for the dems and if any of them are on the bubble,it suggests the others might be in play as well. If so McCain wins, IMHO”

Correct. Very encouraging. But other polls are not so ... so it may take time to shake it all down.


52 posted on 03/02/2008 6:19:43 PM PST by WOSG (William F Buckley: A great conservative, may he rest in peace.)
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To: VRWC For Truth

Yep, McCain will lose. He is pathetic and wobbly and talks to himself as if hearing voices in his head. Not in my wildest dreams would I have ever imagined we would elect a joke like him. Nov. will be like a Dem. primary unless McCain is stopped.


53 posted on 03/02/2008 6:21:33 PM PST by Jane Austen
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To: Hitchens
Trust me, old Italian Catholic guys (and gals) won’t be voting for Barack Obama. Neither will old Irish guys or other old ethnic guys.

No one wants to talk about this because it gets too close to the race issue. It will be an issue, however. The dems may be slitting their throats by nominating Obama. A lot of those old folks simply won't vote for a black man. Right or wrong, them's the facts. I was even a little sceptical about their voting for Hillary. That looks like a moot point now (although I won't count her out until Obama gives his acceptance speech in Denver--I don't care what the delegate count is!)

The old "Reagan Democrats" were always largely Catholic ethnics. They are almost always the so-called "swing vote."

BTW, have you seen this thread? It discusses this video about Obama. It has to be seen to be believed. It should leave anyone who sees it disquieted. How did we come to this where such a character as Obama could receive such mob adoration? Can you imagine your retired Catholic ethic voting for Obama after watching it?

54 posted on 03/02/2008 6:31:09 PM PST by ishmac
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To: Baladas

No...although its swing to the Dems wasn’t nearly as dramatic as Vermont’s has been.


55 posted on 03/02/2008 6:40:15 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Grunthor

Point well taken, but you were “disagreeing” with a comparison that wasn’t being made.


56 posted on 03/02/2008 6:42:23 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: reagandissiple

Lets add abortion, guns , socialized medicine, military, capitalism, taxes, govt spending,


57 posted on 03/02/2008 6:47:59 PM PST by ncalburt
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To: reagandissiple

McCain will be the next Prez. Not Obama. Mark my words.


58 posted on 03/02/2008 6:50:42 PM PST by Hammerhead
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To: Grunthor
Yep.

Heard on the radio that McCain had another senior moment when he started to announce that he was a "proud liberal" and then quickly caught himself.

Any truth to the report that McCain is meeting with Lieberman and other liberals this weekend, perhaps to discuss a Dem. VP?

59 posted on 03/02/2008 6:52:48 PM PST by Jane Austen
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To: reagandissiple

Did you ever think you’d see good news about defeating our Dem enemies being attacked by so called Repub. Irrational .


60 posted on 03/02/2008 6:56:27 PM PST by ncalburt
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