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To: tpanther
The world doesn’t belong specifically to science, let alone is set by the rules the “scientists” prefer.

No, but the world of science does work within the guidelines set forth by science. This is called the scientific method.

You can follow some other set of rules if you want, but if you do you are not free to call what you do science.

Frankly, I think all of the various entities that define our realities should have equal time. If scientists gave up it may be more likely that they just didn’t have as good a game!

Equal time? In science class? For each of the "various entities that define our realities?" I assume by "entities" you mean ideas or fields of belief. Well, here are a bunch of "realities" (each is real to some group):

Magic, superstition, wishful thinking, old wives tales, folklore, what the stars foretell and what the neighbors think, faked moon landings, omens, public opinion, astromancy, spells, Ouija boards, anecdotes, a flat or hollow earth, Da Vinci codes, tarot cards, sorcery, seances, sore bunions, black cats, divine revelation, crop circles, table tipping, witch doctors, crystals and crystal balls, numerology, divination, geocentrism, faith healing, miracles, palm reading, the unguessable verdict of historyy, televangelists, magic tea leaves, new age mumbo-jumbo, hoodoo, voodoo and all that other weird stuff.

You can have any or all of it. Study it in any way you want.

But I'll stick to science.

165 posted on 02/24/2008 7:49:20 PM PST by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Coyoteman; shuckmaster

If I may...

This is a religion thread. Unfortunately, it is a religion thread for those of little faith.

Scientists and those with faith (sometimes also scientists, the groups overlap) don’t belong here.


177 posted on 02/24/2008 8:18:24 PM PST by From many - one.
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To: Coyoteman

No, but the world of science does work within the guidelines set forth by science. This is called the scientific method.

>>>And yet scientists can’t even agree on THAT! I’ve seen too many occasions where scientists of equal degree claim the other wasn’t even using ‘scientific methods’ to get to their conclusions and vice-versa and so on.


You can follow some other set of rules if you want, but if you do you are not free to call what you do science.

>>>>>Sure I am! I can call whatever I want to do science...and somtimes I can even get approval from other like-minded people with similar, less than or equal to scientific degrees as mine, to boot!


Equal time? In science class? For each of the “various entities that define our realities?” I assume by “entities” you mean ideas or fields of belief. Well, here are a bunch of “realities” (each is real to some group):

>>>>>>So, by that logic, when the professor gets a question from a student at the beginning of science class...”Ummm, where is the closest restroom”...The science professor is obliged to reply...”Well that’s ummmm not SCIENCE, therefore you’ll have to wait until AFTER science class to learn that information”!

It never ceases to amaze me that the people most likely to assume they can somehow set the rules on what science is or isn’t are the ones that can’t argue their way out of a wet paper bag! Not that such rules could ever HOPE to be set all along! Science, the scientific method...all of it, isn’t etched in stone or even defined SOLELY by today’s standards, no more so than they were in the 1st century!

Alchemists and midevel barbers were CONVINCED what they were doing was “real science” back then (just like some people are convinced that studying poltergeists and UFO’s are considered to be “REAL” science today) and who KNOWS what will be considered REAL science in the 30th century, (providing we make it that far)!

I know a group that thought if they wanted to snip their nuts off and catch a space ship in the tail of a comet to get to heaven after killing themslves...and this is considered a religion and there are actually people that climb on Christians for DARE saying this is a FALSE religion!

No ONE group gets to determine what religion is, no more than one group gets to determine what science, math or history “is”!


But I’ll stick to science.

>>>>>For however you decide to define it, accept it and so forth and so on, no doubt!

Good luck with THAT!


189 posted on 02/24/2008 8:48:20 PM PST by tpanther
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