Posted on 02/24/2008 4:18:12 PM PST by no nau
“and your natural mind wants something you can understand. “
Doesn’t yours?
“Are you a fence sitter - warm - take a little from God and a little from man.”
What do you call someone who takes all from man?
Since we have only the Bible, and our faith, and God doesn’t explain the mystery of the Universe to us upon demand, how can one take only from God?
Yep. I’m on the fence. Watching the CREOS and EVOS throwing rocks at each other.
All they manage to do is move the rocks from one side of the fence to the other.
Neither one can ‘create’ or ‘destroy’ the rocks.
God said, “Ok. Do it.”
The scientists said, “ok, we take this dirt.”
God said, “Hold it. You gotta get your own dirt.”
“It is also Written that it is NOT given for all to understand”
I can relate to that.
Don’t give up! Seriously...I STILL to this day ask God why certain things aren’t going the way I think they should go in my life.
As crazy as it seems my life would be so much worse had I not begun to see how HE is in control though.
I guess if it were perfect this would be heaven.
“There is only ONE Truth. Same God - Same Truth for all!”
And if we were perfect, we would all have the same understanding of that truth.
We aren’t.
No, but the world of science does work within the guidelines set forth by science. This is called the scientific method.
You can follow some other set of rules if you want, but if you do you are not free to call what you do science.
Frankly, I think all of the various entities that define our realities should have equal time. If scientists gave up it may be more likely that they just didn’t have as good a game!
Equal time? In science class? For each of the "various entities that define our realities?" I assume by "entities" you mean ideas or fields of belief. Well, here are a bunch of "realities" (each is real to some group):
Magic, superstition, wishful thinking, old wives tales, folklore, what the stars foretell and what the neighbors think, faked moon landings, omens, public opinion, astromancy, spells, Ouija boards, anecdotes, a flat or hollow earth, Da Vinci codes, tarot cards, sorcery, seances, sore bunions, black cats, divine revelation, crop circles, table tipping, witch doctors, crystals and crystal balls, numerology, divination, geocentrism, faith healing, miracles, palm reading, the unguessable verdict of historyy, televangelists, magic tea leaves, new age mumbo-jumbo, hoodoo, voodoo and all that other weird stuff.You can have any or all of it. Study it in any way you want.
But I'll stick to science.
You have a different fossil record that creationists? Different laws of physics? A different geologic history?
That’s news to me.
Funny, I thought we all lived on the same planet.
What conclusion? You’re not making any sense. You’re being too vague.
“We are to KNOW The Creator with a personal relationship - our eyes on Him first, not the things He created.”
Eventually, all the physical things will pass.
But while we are here, we get to play with the stuff.
( I think we agree, we just have a different ‘understanding’, and a different way of ‘conveying’ it.)
Yeah...like the scientists claim Pluto is a planet, then say ‘oh no it’s not’, but then ‘it is’...’no it’s not’...’yes it is’...’no it’s not’...
And these are just the astronomers!
Science all too often is merely what the concensus is, or the latest data, only to be disproven tomorrow, then reproven the next day...
ad infinatum.
OOPS. Cut and Paste problemo.
POST #148. REMOVE THIS:
“called the Theory of Flight. I suppose you have doubts about that?
REPLACE WITH THIS:
Did anyone explain, through science, how this universe ever got started?t as well?”
Yeah...like the scientists claim Pluto is a planet, then say ‘oh no it’s not’, but then ‘it is’...’no it’s not’...’yes it is’...’no it’s not’...
And these are just the astronomers!
Science all too often is merely what the concensus is, or the latest data, only to be disproven tomorrow, then reproven the next day...
ad infinatum.
I don’t like Huckabee’s socialism.
And Christianity is still the most widely held religious belief, of all...with Islam 2nd...last I checked.
Every evangelical type I’ve ever met was a recovering alcoholic. Something about years of substance abuse reduces a persons brain to babbling verses from ancient scrolls passed down from tribes of sandal wearing middle eastern bonze age goat herders and then not understanding why sane people keep avoiding them.
>>>>I would then suggest to stay out of bars and back alleys and/or prisons and/or AA/NA meetings!
Amazing that according to Darwin mircobial life evolved to the point they "invented" God.. Must mean not believing in God is a primitive throw back to primoridal days of the microbe.. or Ape.. Some humans to Ape intelligence.. And RAP artists Ape chimpanzees.. making noise and throwing stuff and posturing..
Conversely, I see an old man with a fat wallet and young woman on his arm he calls his wife.
Sometimes I can ASSume she loves him for his money and sometimes I might ASSume otherwise in a different case.
In the end there’s no “proof” either way.
For what it’s worth I think we have indeed moved beyond the mere “theory” of flight!
Kind of like professors in science class! LOL
If I may...
This is a religion thread. Unfortunately, it is a religion thread for those of little faith.
Scientists and those with faith (sometimes also scientists, the groups overlap) don’t belong here.
God made it such that this is not an answerable question. Not in this life.
Indeed, it is hard to talk to someone in denial. Thank you for sharing your insights!
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