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To: Strategerist
You and kinoxi obviously have a deep-seated contempt for scientists (and even the process of science, perhaps.) Why? What drives it?

Hope you don't mind if I butt in here ;^)

Let me start by suggesting anyone NOT finding major problems wihtin the scientific community™ should actually declare their religion. Since scientology is taken, I offer as a suggestion, denialogy. That is, you accept on faith everything promulgated that protects their sacred cows or sacred cowboys. There is a bold new world out there for all disciplines of science -- with the exception of anything that could disturb the status quo. It would appear to the layman, simple minded people have obtained control of the flow of scientific information.

If you're truly interested in discovering why there are a few around that distrust much of mainstream science, just have a look at mainstream media. Their incessant spreading of cow manure has been exposed for most of the world to see; maybe it's time the same be done for the scientific community™.

The PICTURE THAT WON'T GO AWAY.

36 posted on 02/24/2008 12:22:30 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: ForGod'sSake; SunkenCiv

Halton Arp: A Modern Day Galileo

Halton Arp is to the 21st century what Galileo was to the 17th. Both were respected scientists, popular leaders in their field. Both made observations which contradicted the accepted theories. Seventeenth century academics felt threatened by Galileo's observations and so, backed by ecclesiastical authority, they ordered him to stop looking. Twentieth century astronomers felt threatened by Arp's observations and so, backed by institutional authority, they ordered him to stop looking.

Both refused. Both published works geared to the non-specialist when specialists would no longer take note. Galileo's paper, "A Dialogue on the Two Chief Systems of the World" , favored a heliocentric model of the solar system and undermined the accepted geocentric model. Arp's books, Quasars, Redshifts and Controversies, Seeing Red, and Catalogue of Discordant Redshift Associations, favor a steady-state model of the universe and undermine the accepted big bang model.

The Church responded by placing Galileo under house arrest: his peers would not even look through his telescope and the Church judged his books heretical. The modern astronomical community responded similarly to Arp. Observatory officials cancelled his telescope time and astronomical journals refused to publish his research...

LINK.

39 posted on 02/24/2008 2:14:09 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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