[Old Sarge]

All I am saying is that it is important to be realistic and not introduce hyperbole that makes us look like a paranoid fringe.

Sensibly said. But I also see how we are already regarded as a "fringe" - by our own party.

We agree that either of the Leftists would damage this nation. We just differ on future ops.

[trumandogz]

Yes, John McCain proves that the right is seen as a fringe group in the GOP.

And yes, Obama, Hillary and McCain each has great potential to damage this nation.

But, we will survive as a nation and as a people.