Posted on 02/22/2008 5:34:35 AM PST by Kaslin
Barack Obama laid out numerous liberal policies he would pursue if elected President and dodged a blow from Hillary Clinton in a critical Democratic presidential debate before the March 4th nominating contests in Ohio and Texas.
In the run-up to the CNN debate in Austin, Texas Thursday evening, the Clinton campaign accused Obama of plagiarizing speech lines from Democratic Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick.
Obama brushed off the charges. He said, “The notion that I plagiarized from somebody who is one of my national co-chairs who gave me the line and suggested I use it, I think is silly. This is where we start getting to silly season in politics and people start getting discouraged by it.”
Clinton retorted, “If your candidacy is going to be about words then they should be your own words.” The crowd applauded mildly, but rebuked what she said next. “Lifting passages from someone else’s speeches is not change you can believe in, it’s change you can Xerox.”
After Clinton said this, the audience booed for the only time that evening.
When pressed for policy details on several issues like immigration, healthcare, the economy and international relations Obama supported liberal positions.
Obama chided what he described as hateful rhetoric surrounding debates on immigration. He said immigration rhetoric has had “an undertone that has been ugly” and “we’ve seen hate crime skyrocket in the wake of the immigration debate.”
Obama, who supports comprehensive immigration reform and drivers licenses for illegal aliens, said in the debate he also thought there should be lower immigration application fees because “it’s discriminatory” for immigrant families to “hire a lawyer” and “pay thousands in fees” to receive legal status. Obama added he thought Congress should immediately pass the DREAM Act to give in-state tuition to illegal aliens.
“I do not want two classes of citizens in this country,” he said.
On healthcare, Obama said his and Clinton’s plans for were “95 percent similar.”
“We are going to subsidize those who can’t afford it,” he said.
To improve the economy, Obama said “We have to end the Bush tax cuts to the wealthy and provide tax breaks to middle-class Americans and working Americans who need them.”
“Senior citizens making less than $50,000, you shouldn’t have to pay income tax on your Social Security,” Obama said. “We [can] pay for this by closing tax loopholes and tax havens that are being manipulated.”
Obama and Clinton largely agreed on most issue positions, but sparred over whether or not to meet with the soon-to-be Cuban leader Raul Castro.
As President, Clinton said she would not meet with Castro “until there was evidence change was happening.”
The debate ended on a largely conciliatory tone from Clinton, who is considered to have lost her front-runner status after suffering ten straight primary state losses to Obama.
At one point, Obama offered a strong argument why he would be a better candidate to run against Republican front-runner John McCain, to which Clinton gave no rebuttal.
Obama said, “When we are having a debate with John McCain it is going to be much easier with a candidate who was opposed the concept of invading Iraq in the first place to have a debate about the wisdom of that decision instead of having to argue about the tactics subsequent to the decision.” This was a not-so-subtle criticism of Clinton, who voted for the war in 2002 while Obama was speaking out against it as an Illinois state senator.
After landing no solid, campaign changing blows on Obama, Clinton closed the event by saying she was “absolutely honored” to be with him.
“And you know, whatever happens, we're going to be fine,” she said. “You know, we have strong support from our families and our friends. I just hope we'll be able to say the same thing about the American people, and that's what this election should be about.”
I think I smell a Marxist.
So, he sees everyone living within our boundaries as citizens. Even those here illegally. This man may well be more dangerous than Clinton.
That debate was a Communism festival, put on by two complete Marxists for the lowest common denominator of American society. Hitlery and Osama couldn’t up the ante fast enough for the greatest taxpayer givaway of all time.
It is better to know your enemy, so I watched most of it... untill I felt so dirty I had to change the channel.
From the article: “We are going to subsidize those who can’t afford it,” he said.
We?
I think he meant that people who choose not to pay for their own health care will receive it anyway at the expense of other people.
OK, we will stop having debates then if they get racists to act out. No doubt if Obama gets elected we will have very strict "Speech-Codes" like they do in most liberal universities.
>>”I think he meant that people who choose not to pay for their own health care will receive it anyway at the expense of other people.”<<
But wait, we’re already doing that.
... I think is silly. This is where we start getting to silly season in politics and people start getting discouraged by it.”
Silly? He used the word “silly?”
What grown, well educated male uses the word “silly?”
Who wrote that line? - his wife?
God save the Republic!
Way this is shaping up Clinton is easier to beat electorally, far harder to beat legislatively. Obama is far harder to beat electorally but would be easier to beat legislatively. Take your pick.
I have always feared B. Hussain much more than Hillary.
We can beat her, but we don’t have a chance against the Cult of Obama.
mark
No country ever taxed its way to prosperity.
These fools just don’t understand that socialism has never worked - anywhere.
Why do they think it will work in the US?
Fools. Just damned fools.
It will be very easy for Obama to implement all his socialist plans. All we have to do is double the GDP by this time next time year. And keep doubling it every year after that. Don’t ask me how we could do this with a Marxist economy. I’m merely giving people the solution. Details are inconsequential...and so without hope and change. (smirk)
One ladles out pure Marxist bulls..., the other puts a little sugar on it. It's still Marxist bulls... either way.
It won't be easy, but the more Americans look into his socialist plans, the less they'll like it. Obama's smooth ride will get a lot more bumpier as the details of his Marxist designs become known to the general public.
Yes, probably Obama/Clinton or Clinton/Obama as they are so shmoozy in the debates that it could be either way.
I hope you’re right. Most people don’t have the intelligence of desire to see past Camelot II.
Seniors should not have to pay taxes on SS. One thing BO and I agree on. But wait. Ron Paul tried to reverse this tax several times.
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