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California exodus turns to stampede
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | February 20, 2008

Posted on 02/21/2008 4:07:43 AM PST by Man50D

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To: FormerACLUmember
Consider the Laffer Curve as your GPS. Your position is way east of "Y":

East of Y? I did not know there was life east of the Pacific Coast Highway!

281 posted on 02/21/2008 8:35:10 PM PST by BJungNan
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To: BJungNan

Yeah, but like the superspender, the Feds...Whats a few hundred billion of tax payer dollars?


282 posted on 02/21/2008 8:35:52 PM PST by dragnet2 (q)
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To: Azeem
The Midwest is too cold. Make sure you tell everyone in California that.

Every time I open the freezer, I feel your pain.

283 posted on 02/21/2008 8:37:00 PM PST by dragnet2 (q)
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To: Ben Ficklin

“AR and CA are both high tax states but the CA taxpayer gets a lot more for his money than the AR taxpayer. “

Can you please cheer me up by letting me know what exactly I am getting for my CA taxes? :)


284 posted on 02/21/2008 8:40:04 PM PST by BamaGirl (The Framers Rule!)
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To: dragnet2
Pretty amazing that Indianapolis Indiana has substantially more crime per capita than L.A. Cal...I was as surprised as you were.

I wasn't surprised. That's why I don't live in Indianapolis. What you haven't addressed is that the average for Los Angeles is skewed by the large population size. "Los Angeles" could be including many nicer areas of LA, since LA is so big. Also, it's long been suspected that LA fudges its crime stats. Here's a link: http://lavoice.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2525 . Several relatives of mine are or were at one time LAPD or LA County Sheriff's officers...I know what really goes on with this stuff. Even in Riverside, 2/3 of the crimes committed against me were not reported, because the cops didn't want to fill out reports.

285 posted on 02/21/2008 8:45:35 PM PST by ReagansShinyHair
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To: Azeem

“The Midwest is too cold. Make sure you tell everyone in California that.”

Oh and someday Florida will be under water when the glaciers all melt from Globull Warming, an’...an’..nobody speeks Ernglish here no more eether...si, is bad place amigos....


286 posted on 02/21/2008 8:51:59 PM PST by billmor (God Bless Out Troops and Gold Star moms and dads)
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To: ReagansShinyHair
What you haven't addressed is that the average for Los Angeles is skewed by the large population size.

Ya know what? I haven't skewed anything. They only thing skewed here is you. Those are not my charts or stats Freddy. Hello?

I've taken enough of your juvenile, bottom shelf insults and and implications.

I can't help it that your angry that LA has less crime per capita than almost all *major* cities in other states.

287 posted on 02/21/2008 8:52:54 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: ReagansShinyHair

Hmmm...You post a link from a site that posts this logo all over it..LA Voice? Oh man.....

288 posted on 02/21/2008 9:09:42 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2
Yes, it appears to me from the link that you're only comparing the small part of the greater LA area called 'Los Angeles' the actual city limits.

That's Echo Park, Olvera Street, Dodger Stadium, and everything between the 110 Freeway and I-5 just a bit north and south of I-101 and I-10.

Folks, dragnet2 is pulling your leg. :-)

289 posted on 02/21/2008 10:02:25 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: The KG9 Kid
Yeah, I'm making it all up...

wow...

290 posted on 02/21/2008 10:04:46 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: The KG9 Kid

I think that’s right.

Otherwise, the numbers simply make no sense. LA is not a peaceful paradise of law-abiding folk. It’s a very dangerous, very violent city, in a lot of places.

There’s a lot of crime. There’s a reason the police have all those choppers, you see on the freeway chases - there are a lot of bad guys, and the bad guys are on a whole different level than most places. Some gangs, are bigger than the LAPD.

The upside of that is, for the most part if you’re not doing something really terrible, the police don’t really care. Most law-abiding folk don’t need to be too over cautious, because the police are looking for home invaders and gangsters.

The downside is, if you are unfortunate to run into an LAPD (or Highway Patrol) for some offense they don’t mess around, and fines are HIGH.

Things are clearly heading the wrong direction though.

You can feel it.


291 posted on 02/21/2008 10:13:09 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (Draft: Condoleezza Rice for Vice President!)
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To: The KG9 Kid
Yes, it appears to me from the link that you're only comparing the small part of the greater LA area called 'Los Angeles' the actual city limits.

LOL...Thanks for that laugh...

What did you possibly base that on?

The city limits are depicted on most maps...Look it up and educated yourself. Wha'd d'ya think Los Angeles means? It's a city..Ya know what I mean?

292 posted on 02/21/2008 10:15:53 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

Do you live in LA?

The poster has a (very) valid point.

The numbers could mean anything, depending whether “LA” is defined to include Riverside, Compton, Long Beach, Hollywood, South-Central, East LA.

The section from Broadway downtown, out to Mid-Wilshire, is hardly representative of Southern California - yet that is in fact, “Los Angeles” proper.


293 posted on 02/21/2008 10:18:53 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (Draft: Condoleezza Rice for Vice President!)
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To: dragnet2
Come now, dragnet2... I think you're comparing a 2 mile wide industrial and financial district that's a fraction of the entire LA area to everyone else's cities. You know, that's 'Los Angeles, Los Angeles' where the old Bendix Brake company factory is. Where the skyscrapers are. Where Parker Center LAPD's HQ is. Who even lives there?

Heck, I lived in "LA" for years and can't remember ever actually going into the official city of 'Los Angeles' except to go to Olvera Street or maybe one time to the Staples Center. No, people from Los Angeles don't live in 'Los Angeles'... they live in Culver City and Torrance and El Segundo and so on. Those cities all have their own statistics at that website.

Yet, one mile away from your 'Los Angeles' begins all the high crime satellite cities of South Central Los Angeles that doesn't appear to be included in your data.

You might be tricking some Freepers from Chattanooga TN that's never been to 'Los Angeles', but really now... ;)

Also, have you broken their little website? The graphs don't seem to be displaying anymore.

294 posted on 02/21/2008 10:19:00 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: The KG9 Kid
Come now, dragnet2... I think you're comparing a 2 mile wide industrial and financial district that's a fraction of the entire LA area to everyone else's citie

Post the link that backs this up what you say.

Where do get this? Out of thin air? Answer: yes. lol

295 posted on 02/21/2008 10:23:35 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

Okay, I’ll take another look when that website recovers.


296 posted on 02/21/2008 10:25:41 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: The KG9 Kid
Come now, dragnet2... I think you're comparing a 2 mile wide industrial and financial district that's a fraction of the entire LA area to everyone else's cities.

Ya caught me slick. I'm creating my own stats and charts, and that's really Beverly Hills stats. I'm just making this all up.

Boy, you're on the case.

297 posted on 02/21/2008 10:26:06 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2
Well, it seems that I got a graph to work at that site but it may not show up in this forum. This thread may have bonked their bandwidth for the time being.

Here, let me prove my point. I just compared 'Los Angeles, Los Angeles' to 'Compton'. They're two individual cities separated by only three miles as the crow flies, yet they're both part of "Los Angeles":

Data collected by using this link.

See, quite different results. Noone hardly ever gets murdered in 'Los Angeles', by comparison. It's all happening in the BAD areas that your search didn't account for, like the City of Compton. However, everyone from Los Angeles knows that Compton is indeed part of "Los Angeles". After all, the police that patrol there may show 'Compton Police Department' on their shoulder patch, but they're really LAPD. The phone books in Compton say 'Compton - Los Angeles' on them with the local ZIP code.

If you were to take the entire Los Angeles Basin into account, I do believe that you wouldn't be able to convince anyone in Savannah GA that their city is some urban hellhole that's got more crime than what you were calling 'Los Angeles'.

That was my point, dragnet2. Now everyone knows.

298 posted on 02/21/2008 10:49:24 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: The KG9 Kid
Gezzz man...Compton is not part of Los Angeles. lol Compton is a very small town...Compard to LA...Ya know what I mean?

I was comparing *major* cities? You do know what *major* means right? What don't you get about comparing major cities?

Why are you so distraught about the fact that LA, Ca. has much less crime than most all the other **major** cities in other states?

299 posted on 02/21/2008 10:54:37 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: Man50D

Must be the leadership.


300 posted on 02/21/2008 11:00:36 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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