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To: incindiary

you’re welcome...we can hold McCain’s feet to the fire to close the border and with hopefully a majority back in congress, the republicans will finally fix the illegal alien problem. The last outcry was huge from the public and it will continue.
When McCain said the people don’t care if we are in Iraq for a very long time, he obviously didn’t mean still at war but in some degree there helping them, just as we are in Germany and other friendly countries. Ron Paul will lower our defenses domestically with the much needed surveilance techniques and pull us out of Iraq right away regardless of the huge sacrifice of so many very brave souls. I don’t think that is a good or strong position at all but is born of weakness of some sort. All it will take is for the islamic whackos to be successful in one big bomb attack in one of our cities and we will be in very deep doodoo and we would suffer horrible lose of life. We are at war and there alot of good people doing alot of work to keep the brainwashed enemy from destroying our country. We tend to discount that because our lives go on as usual.


34 posted on 02/19/2008 8:29:49 AM PST by fabian
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To: fabian
I know that he meant "helping them", and not at war for 100 years. But I still don't agree with that, for the reasons I stated before and because the current foreign policy is not constitutional, and is bankrupting our country. You think it makes us stronger but I think ultimately the opposite is true, for numerous reasons. We are weakened financially as we borrow trillions to finance the wars. We are less safe when the military is overdeployed and spread too thin, and we're in perpetual war while our own borders are being neglected. We are weakened as a moral leader when we do things prop up dictators, for example Musharraf who overthrew an elected government, while simultaneously we claim to be "spreading democracy" (by the barrel of a gun).

And most importantly, back home we are losing the things most worth fighting; our freedom, liberties and rights as our constitution is being trampled and our government is becoming more and more like Big Brother, intruding on our lives and privacy - which is exactly what the founders warned us against, trading liberty for security. If we lose our sovereignty through open borders and globalist policies, and we're losing our liberty and rights that we cherish, then what are our soldiers fighting and dying for?

And if we continue on the path we're on, eventually we're not even going to have a country, because politicians in both parties are taking us towards globalism, so if you want a new world order, then continue to support people like McCain. As for me, I don't want an unfree and unAmerican NWO, I want us to have a republic, which is the type of government we're supposed to have.

35 posted on 02/19/2008 7:52:21 PM PST by incindiary (A republic, if you can keep it.)
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