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McCain? No Way!
Gun Owners of America ^ | Feb 15, 2008 | Sen. HL "Bill" Richardson (ret.)

Posted on 02/17/2008 10:20:04 AM PST by calcowgirl

www.gunowners.org/op0808.htm

McCain? No Way!
by Sen. HL "Bill" Richardson (ret.)
Chairman of the Board, GOA

Americans are being told by the mainstream media that conservatives have no other choice than to back the hypocrite from Arizona. All that is required is to pretend he is "really" a conservative. "So, crawl under the big Republican tent and vote for McCain," we are told. "Besides, what other choice do you have?"

We have plenty of choices, none of which calls for casting our vote for the lesser of two presidential evils.

First, the Republican race isn't over. Huckabee is still around and as Kansas and Louisiana should point out, the Romney vote flocked to Huckabee. Not that they loved Huckabee, but that they have zero trust in the promises of McCain. Even if Huckabee loses, what makes anyone think conservatives will vote for McCain?

Don't you liberals get it? The republican conservative believes McCain would be a vindictive president. He's proven his dislike for conservatives and would gut us at every opportunity.

Why do I say that? Because of three decades of experience as a Republican California Senator and a fifty year activist in the conservative movement. I have first hand, in-their-face experience with elitist RINO's (Republican in Name Only) office holders. They are biblically ignorant, power hungry, status seeking egotists who have no difficulty aiding their liberal Democrat colleagues whenever their arms are politely twisted. The one thing they have in common with liberal Democrats is their dislike of all conservatives, especially those who are Bible-believing. McCain, as president, would stifle the voices of elected Republican leaders and try to legislate the conservative movement out of existence.

There is no reason why any conservative should be depressed, especially if they look at past history. I clearly remember the political climate in 1964. We newly-awakened conservatives had a real friend running for the Republican nomination. Barry Goldwater defeated a liberal Republican in the primaries, but in the general election, the mainstream media slaughtered him. In 1964 it was easy to do; we had no effective political action committees, no conservative organizations, few pro-life activists, little religious participation, no talk radio, a handful of articulate conservative legislators, no fax machines and zero Internet. After the 1964 November election, all looked hopeless. Not a bright star on the horizon....But!

In 1966, we conservatives elected an actor as Governor of California. I was elected to the State Senate. The thespian and I were greener than grass but we were both quick to learn. Ron Reagan became a national star, a conservative leader in the nation’s most popular state. He couldn't be ignored.

I founded Gun Owners of America and Gun Owners of California. We became the second largest pro-Second Amendment organization in America with membership in the hundreds of thousands. We concentrated our efforts on electing pro-gunners to the legislature and stopping anti-gun legislation. We grew rapidly and were quite successful. During liberal Jerry Brown's eight years as governor, not a single anti-gun bill was signed into law. The reason was simple -- although the liberal Democrats controlled both houses of the legislature, no anti-gun legislation passed from either house to find its way to the Governor’s desk.

The entire gun movement is close to accomplishing that feat on a national level. As long as the gun community hangs together, it will make little difference on gun issues who is sitting in the White House. The same could be true of other major conservative organizations as long as they stay in the fight. We are much better off than in 1964 and much better organized.

The other good news is that some of the weak-sister Republicans are leaving office -- not willing to scrap it out with the liberal Democrats. Hooray, happy to see you go! Call Gun Owners if you need a ride out of town. We have an opportunity to replace them with tough, no nonsense conservatives. Already, some very fine men are seeking these vacancies.

We at Gun Owners intend to be very engaged in Congressional and US Senate races.

I personally will not cast a vote for the presidency -- that is, if McCain is the Republican nominee. Under no circumstances will I vote for either of the Democrats. This will be the first time in fifty years that I have made this choice. I hope it will be the last.


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To: calcowgirl
Americans are being told by the mainstream media that conservatives have no other choice than to back the hypocrite from Arizona.

Incorrect. Show me one MSM source that claims that conservatives "have no other choice." That's total nonsense.

All that is required is to pretend he is "really" a conservative.

Incorrect. Show one MSM source advocating that we "pretend" McCain is "really a conservative." More nonsense. The old MSM bogeyman...as if having conseravtives sit out and pout while the DEMs march to victory ISN'T what the MSM would prefer.

We have plenty of choices, none of which calls for casting our vote for the lesser of two presidential evils.

But only two choices are of any consequence: McCain or the DEM nominee. The other choices are all equally meaningless.

First, the Republican race isn't over.

But it will be soon.

Even if Huckabee loses, what makes anyone think conservatives will vote for McCain?

57% of Freepers who responded to the poll say they will vote for McCain. That means the sit out and pout crowd is a minority of a minority.

and would gut us at every opportunity.

Like he did when he voted for Roberts and Alito? Like he does by supporting victory in Iraq?

McCain, as president, would stifle the voices of elected Republican leaders and try to legislate the conservative movement out of existence.

As president, McCain would work with both sides.

I personally will not cast a vote for the presidency -- that is, if McCain is the Republican nominee. Under no circumstances will I vote for either of the Democrats.

But by sitting out, you help the Democrats win.

81 posted on 02/17/2008 11:05:08 AM PST by Huck (Sit out and pout! OBAMA in 08! The conservatives' choice!)
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To: Maelstorm
To say there is no difference between McCain and Obama is just a lie. Not liking him is fine but hating him is not an excuse to embrace defeat.

It depends on what your definition of "defeat" is. In California, conservatives were told "winning" was everything and Schwarzenegger was shoved down our throats as all the Party operatives worked to slime Tom McClintock. I said from day one that electing Arnold would not be a "win" for the people, the state, or the party.

Where did this "win" get us? We now have a leftist introducing leftist policies and advancing the goals of liberals, all under the (R) label.

I want no part of John McCain. I will work hard to elect conservatives to Congress who will oppose his vision of "Republican."

p.s. Drop the "hate" rhetoric. This has nothing to do with hate.

82 posted on 02/17/2008 11:05:22 AM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Digital Sniper
That sock puppet may have worked in scaring you to vote for a Soros-funded liberal, but it won't work here.

It's not a sock puppet. It's not a bogeyman. It's the actual choice: McCain or (likely) Obama. Deny it all you need, it's an undeniable fact.

83 posted on 02/17/2008 11:06:20 AM PST by Huck (Sit out and pout! OBAMA in 08! The conservatives' choice!)
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To: Mojave
It's absolute insanity...completely driven by fear. Those who vote for McCain out of fear are only going to wake up to their worst fear in November of 2008.

If we're going to lose the coming Presidential election to the left (and we ARE), then I would prefer to lose HONORABLY. I won't be counted with cowards who vote out of fear, only to lose and then lament the fact that I committed the immoral act of voting for a terrible leftist panderer like McCain.

I will lament the fact that we're going to have our heads handed to us, but I can sleep with knowing I did what was right and correct...meaning that I penciled in Hunter/Thompson, or voted for Ron Paul.

I will not "play" this asinine game of chess whereby the GOP makes the rules. ...especially after being ignored by them for the past four years SOLID. They're just not hearing us. But that's O.K., because we're not talking to them anymore. I think we're past that now.
84 posted on 02/17/2008 11:06:50 AM PST by hiredhand (Check my "about" page. I'm the Prophet of Doom!)
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To: InterceptPoint
just how long it took for Russia to recover after Lenin took over.

California, and the CA Republican Party, may never recover from Scharzenegger.

McCain--more of the same.

85 posted on 02/17/2008 11:06:53 AM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Huck
[ Allow me to summarize the article: OBAMA IN 08! ]

Mclaim cannot win.. If you think he will/can you're not paying attention..

I might vote for him if he could.. HE CAN'T..
Bush fractured the party like a windshield in a car wreck,
and by border policys and run away non vetoed BIG government spending...

A Bush/Kennady/McLaim Republican Party is a travesty..
Sure an Obama/Clinton administration is a nightmare and a heart attack..
But It WILL HAPPEN.. turning your head from it WILL NOT make it Go AWAY...

The democrats are galvanized the republicans are stomach punched and depressed..
Lame... PeP talks will only make it worse..
Republicans are Cats, democrats are oblivious sheep..
Thats just the way it is.. Oh! RINOs are sheep too..

86 posted on 02/17/2008 11:07:13 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: ari-freedom
not conservative enough! let’s let obama win!

If you've ever given money to the Republican party, perhaps you will understand why we don't want to actually PAY for our own sell-out. If we are going to be sold out on core principles, let it be on someone else's dime.
87 posted on 02/17/2008 11:07:58 AM PST by farmer18th (Conservatives who vote McCain are like abused dogs who keep licking their master's hand...)
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To: Digital Sniper

No kool-aid needed, thanks. I’m looking at life with eyes wide open. The ones drinking the Jim Jones suicide juice are the ones who intend to help elect the Socialist OBAMA and give him a mandate to govern. The ones who just this year discovered that sometimes you don’t get the candidate you wanted. The ones apparantly so drunk on koolaid they are acting as if they’ve never experienced politics before.


88 posted on 02/17/2008 11:08:19 AM PST by Huck (Sit out and pout! OBAMA in 08! The conservatives' choice!)
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To: Huck
The ones drinking the Jim Jones suicide juice are the ones who intend to help elect the Socialist OBAMA

McCain can't be held responsible if he loses. Liberals are never to blame for their own failures.

89 posted on 02/17/2008 11:10:34 AM PST by Mojave
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To: 3AngelaD

Vote for the Conservative Party candidate


90 posted on 02/17/2008 11:10:55 AM PST by Galactica
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To: farmer18th
F- from GOA is an ultra-conservative rating?

LOL. As if there's nothing in between ultra-conservative and ultra-leftist. What a bunch of crap.

Siding with Hillary, Kennedy, and GWB on immigration

That's right: GWB. I voted for GWB, and were he running this year, I'd vote for him again. Not because I like him. I don't. Not because I agree with all he does. I don't. But because he would represent the better of the two actual choices. Similarly, I'll vote for McCain, the better of the actual choices.

but the notion that McCain is anything other than a fascist is just that, a teenage reverie.

LOL. More of this 'brownshirt' fascist stuff. You realize that means you've lost the argument, right?

91 posted on 02/17/2008 11:11:30 AM PST by Huck (Sit out and pout! OBAMA in 08! The conservatives' choice!)
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To: 3AngelaD

Correct that. Vote for the Constitution Party candidate


92 posted on 02/17/2008 11:12:05 AM PST by Galactica
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To: 3AngelaD
So which one do you prefer to be nominating our next Supreme Court justices?

Wise up! There's simply NO difference between the SCOTUS pick of McQueeg vs Bilary/Obama. Watch--if he's elected he'll nominate someone who would make Sandra Day O'Connor look predictable.

Look--either way, all that's going to happen (IF any judges retire in the next four years) is that a couple of liberal judges would be replaced by a couple of liberal judges. No matter whether it's McQueeg, Bilary or Obamanation.

93 posted on 02/17/2008 11:12:12 AM PST by MaggieCarta (I'm 'Statistically Insignificant,' and proud of it.)
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To: Mojave
McCain can't be held responsible if he loses.

He's run as himself, and will be the nominee, because he got the necessary votes. It's his campaign, he is who he is. He'll be responsible for what he does. But conservatives who sit out and pout, helping the DEMs win with a sizable mandate, will have themselves to thank for the socialism that will follow.

94 posted on 02/17/2008 11:13:16 AM PST by Huck (Sit out and pout! OBAMA in 08! The conservatives' choice!)
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To: calcowgirl
Or, more likely as Richardson testifies, they'll be run out of town and targeted for defeat in their next election.

No doubt, you're right there (again) 100%.

95 posted on 02/17/2008 11:13:19 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Russ
It’s pathetic watching many conservatives act like petulent children... The same types who back in 1964 lambasted the liberal wing of the Republican Party for not supporting Goldwater.

"Petulant children?"

" We don't intend to turn the Republican Party over to the traitors in the battle
just ended. We will have no more of those candidates who are pledged to the
same goals as our opposition and who seek our support. Turning the Party
over to the so-called moderates wouldn’t make any sense at all."
-- Ronald Reagan, 1965

96 posted on 02/17/2008 11:13:22 AM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Huck
There IS such a thing as an honorable compromise, but working towards a McCain victory is rewarding the leftward slide of the Republican party. You are part of the problem, not the solution. If more people voted principle, we wouldn't have to face what is patently NOT a choice.

By your logic, you prefer a slow death over a quick one. That's craven cowardice.
97 posted on 02/17/2008 11:14:15 AM PST by farmer18th (Conservatives who vote McCain are like abused dogs who keep licking their master's hand...)
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To: ElectricStrawberry
The choice is to vote for a 3rd party candidate. People don’t remember when voters “sit it out” or “write in”.....but people remember that Perot got 19% of the vote.

The only think Perot accomplished was to get Clinton elected. Some legacy!

98 posted on 02/17/2008 11:14:18 AM PST by billva
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To: Maelstorm
McInsane has been a disgrace to this country and the Republican party for the last 7 years. There is no way I will vote for this fascist traitor. I wouldn't care if it was Karl Marx who was running against him, there is no way I will vote for this POS. Contrary to a lot of FReepers, I have no doubt that MCInsane will do the 'cut & run' in Iraq. Did you forget how he sold out our POW's in Indo China?

Screw McInsane. /rant off

99 posted on 02/17/2008 11:16:37 AM PST by Left2Right ("Democracy isn't perfect, but other governments are so much worse (especially Iran's)")
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To: Huck
Bored with your RINO-coddling. You want to vote for a liberal just because he has an 'R' by his name? Knock yourself out.

I'm sure that if Hillary ever switches parties, you'll be demanding that I vote for her as well. And it's because of that reality that you have absolutely no credibility among real conservatives.

100 posted on 02/17/2008 11:16:48 AM PST by Digital Sniper (Hello, "Undocumented Immigrant." I'm an "Undocumented Border Patrol Agent.")
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