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McCain? No Way!
Gun Owners of America ^ | Feb 15, 2008 | Sen. HL "Bill" Richardson (ret.)

Posted on 02/17/2008 10:20:04 AM PST by calcowgirl

www.gunowners.org/op0808.htm

McCain? No Way!
by Sen. HL "Bill" Richardson (ret.)
Chairman of the Board, GOA

Americans are being told by the mainstream media that conservatives have no other choice than to back the hypocrite from Arizona. All that is required is to pretend he is "really" a conservative. "So, crawl under the big Republican tent and vote for McCain," we are told. "Besides, what other choice do you have?"

We have plenty of choices, none of which calls for casting our vote for the lesser of two presidential evils.

First, the Republican race isn't over. Huckabee is still around and as Kansas and Louisiana should point out, the Romney vote flocked to Huckabee. Not that they loved Huckabee, but that they have zero trust in the promises of McCain. Even if Huckabee loses, what makes anyone think conservatives will vote for McCain?

Don't you liberals get it? The republican conservative believes McCain would be a vindictive president. He's proven his dislike for conservatives and would gut us at every opportunity.

Why do I say that? Because of three decades of experience as a Republican California Senator and a fifty year activist in the conservative movement. I have first hand, in-their-face experience with elitist RINO's (Republican in Name Only) office holders. They are biblically ignorant, power hungry, status seeking egotists who have no difficulty aiding their liberal Democrat colleagues whenever their arms are politely twisted. The one thing they have in common with liberal Democrats is their dislike of all conservatives, especially those who are Bible-believing. McCain, as president, would stifle the voices of elected Republican leaders and try to legislate the conservative movement out of existence.

There is no reason why any conservative should be depressed, especially if they look at past history. I clearly remember the political climate in 1964. We newly-awakened conservatives had a real friend running for the Republican nomination. Barry Goldwater defeated a liberal Republican in the primaries, but in the general election, the mainstream media slaughtered him. In 1964 it was easy to do; we had no effective political action committees, no conservative organizations, few pro-life activists, little religious participation, no talk radio, a handful of articulate conservative legislators, no fax machines and zero Internet. After the 1964 November election, all looked hopeless. Not a bright star on the horizon....But!

In 1966, we conservatives elected an actor as Governor of California. I was elected to the State Senate. The thespian and I were greener than grass but we were both quick to learn. Ron Reagan became a national star, a conservative leader in the nation’s most popular state. He couldn't be ignored.

I founded Gun Owners of America and Gun Owners of California. We became the second largest pro-Second Amendment organization in America with membership in the hundreds of thousands. We concentrated our efforts on electing pro-gunners to the legislature and stopping anti-gun legislation. We grew rapidly and were quite successful. During liberal Jerry Brown's eight years as governor, not a single anti-gun bill was signed into law. The reason was simple -- although the liberal Democrats controlled both houses of the legislature, no anti-gun legislation passed from either house to find its way to the Governor’s desk.

The entire gun movement is close to accomplishing that feat on a national level. As long as the gun community hangs together, it will make little difference on gun issues who is sitting in the White House. The same could be true of other major conservative organizations as long as they stay in the fight. We are much better off than in 1964 and much better organized.

The other good news is that some of the weak-sister Republicans are leaving office -- not willing to scrap it out with the liberal Democrats. Hooray, happy to see you go! Call Gun Owners if you need a ride out of town. We have an opportunity to replace them with tough, no nonsense conservatives. Already, some very fine men are seeking these vacancies.

We at Gun Owners intend to be very engaged in Congressional and US Senate races.

I personally will not cast a vote for the presidency -- that is, if McCain is the Republican nominee. Under no circumstances will I vote for either of the Democrats. This will be the first time in fifty years that I have made this choice. I hope it will be the last.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: anyonebutmccain; banglist; cino; demagogue; elections; goa; gunvote; hlrichardson; manchuriancandidate; mccain; mccainunfit; mcfraud; mctraitor; nowaymccain; quaaludeicrous; rino; rinomccain
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To: supercat
There's a difference between saying "I'd rather have X than Y" and saying "I want X".

It's a distinction without a difference. If you have two choices (X or Y), and you'd rather have Y, then you want Y to prevail. It's not that tough. It doesn't mean you love Y, you worship Y, but you prefer Y to X. And so, those who want McCain to lose want OBAMA to win. Inescapable. That's why they are going so nuts. They're cornered and can't deal with it.

It may well be that, given the option of having neither X nor Y, one would opt for that.

And if the queen had balls, she'd be king, but it's NOT an option and is therefore pointless to discuss.

If I could somehow spend $10,000 and make Fred Thompson be President of the U.S., I would. I'd even be willing to spend that for Romney if the alternative was one of the current three. But if I had to spend $0.10 to choose the winner among McCain, Hillary, and Obama, I'd probably keep my dime.

I wouldn't spend a dime on any of them. Least of all that sad sack Thompson. He's part of the reason we're in this mess.

441 posted on 02/17/2008 4:34:18 PM PST by Huck (Support OBAMA in 08--He's a better choice than McCain! Ask any conservative!)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
For all his many faults, McCain is still a fiscal conservative...

In a Karl Marx kinda way.

“I don’t think the governor’s tax cut is too big—it’s just misplaced. Sixty percent of the benefits from his tax cuts go to the wealthiest 10% of Americans—and that’s not the kind of tax relief that Americans need. … Gov. Bush wants to spend the entire surplus on tax cuts. I don’t believe the wealthiest 10% of Americans should get 60% of the tax breaks. I think the lowest 10% should get the breaks." --John McCain

442 posted on 02/17/2008 4:35:39 PM PST by Mojave
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To: Huck
Ok, so you don't care who wins.

Exactly!!! As long as I'm not giving support to any enemy of the Republic my vote can be counted as being for who/what I do support. Conservatives are not going to win the WH this time. A far left liberal or a maverick who embraces far left liberal policies is (not a prayer he will). That is the reality. Now to do what I need to do to prepare for it.

443 posted on 02/17/2008 4:36:46 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: TigersEye
That you wouldn't know logic if it bit you?
444 posted on 02/17/2008 4:38:06 PM PST by JasonC
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To: MaggieCarta
The George Soros sponsored ticket!!!

Soros didn't support one or the other. He bought 'em both.

445 posted on 02/17/2008 4:38:12 PM PST by Mojave
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To: TigersEye
I don't want a Dem to win. I don't want McCain to win either.

And there's the rub. Those are the choices. I hope sooner or later folks come to grips with that.

But it would be true to say I think it would be better, given that choice, if the Dem won.

See, another one finally admits they prefer Obama or Hillary over McCain. It's like pulling teeth, but eventually it comes out.

But I won't vote for either.

Of course not. Better to let others do the dirty work for you, to preserve your feelings. I wonder what you'll do if it looks close. I wonder if you'd have the courage of your convictions. See, if you REALLY believe you are better off with a DEM, you'd vote that way. But you won't vote that way, because you don't really believe it. You just hate both of them and are going to sit it out because you can't deal with choosing.

I consider my vote to be for whom it is cast never against anyone. That is the truth of it.

Well bully for you. I consider voting to be much more practical than that. I vote for the best available choice. Simple, easy.

446 posted on 02/17/2008 4:38:47 PM PST by Huck (Support OBAMA in 08--He's a better choice than McCain! Ask any conservative!)
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To: hiredhand
...It IS predictable that we're going to suffer a crushing loss in November of 2008. It could possibly be averted, but not with cowards willing to vote for another "best of the worst".

The sad and simple fact is that there are too many who will NOT vote for another "best of the worst", and especially not a RINO this time. We've hit our "limit" and have switched into act mode....

Good post; exactly as I see it, as well. Well, they're just so used to conservatives "going along to get along" or "picking between two evils" that they are honestly dismayed and in a terror that we've drawn a line in the sand. We're done. No more RINOs. No more CINOs. Finished.

447 posted on 02/17/2008 4:39:07 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: calcowgirl
Yes, you did, because of a homepage quote about peace to all nations. But good, again. Now, is Iran at present one of those enemies, though somewhat undeclared as to open warfare?
448 posted on 02/17/2008 4:39:39 PM PST by JasonC
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To: hiredhand
You are correct. The very fact we are even having this debate signifies the upcoming defeat for the GOP.

We are going to get screwed by Obama or McCain.

When Obama does it to conservatives it will be akin to rape. When McCain does it to his bots, it will be akin to him visiting a prostitute.

449 posted on 02/17/2008 4:39:49 PM PST by CharacterCounts (When you discover rats in your house, you only have two options - fumigate or tolerate.)
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To: TigersEye
As long as I'm not giving support to any enemy of the Republic my vote can be counted as being for who/what I do support.

Have you ever voted third party for president before?

450 posted on 02/17/2008 4:40:03 PM PST by Huck (Support OBAMA in 08--He's a better choice than McCain! Ask any conservative!)
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To: calcowgirl; JasonC
If you have such venom for conservatism, what are you doing on FR?

That's a good question, indeed!

451 posted on 02/17/2008 4:40:12 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Mojave
Well, they could lay out an explicit and specific conservative agenda that they promise to follow.

They won't. And when they lose, they'll try to blame others for their failure. It's the liberal way.


Good point...liberals do NOT take responsibility for anything, and they're already blaming us for what's coming in November. :-) Ah well...let them blame! I'm not bothered now, and I certainly will have no regrets then!
452 posted on 02/17/2008 4:40:37 PM PST by hiredhand (Check my "about" page. I'm the Prophet of Doom!)
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To: nicmarlo
RINOs are people who aren't real republicans, like, you know, those who pretend to support the party but then don't actually vote for it. You know, the hissy-fit position. Those are the real RINOs. Actual Rs actually vote R in November.
453 posted on 02/17/2008 4:41:08 PM PST by JasonC
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To: calcowgirl
If you have such venom for conservatism, what are you doing on FR?

Promoting McCain.

454 posted on 02/17/2008 4:41:30 PM PST by Mojave
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To: JasonC

Actual “R”s aren’t liberal democrats with an “R” after their name, like McRino.


455 posted on 02/17/2008 4:41:55 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: hiredhand
Good point...liberals do NOT take responsibility for anything, and they're already blaming us for what's coming in November. :-)

They're very predictable. Their candidate loses; it's everyone else's fault.

456 posted on 02/17/2008 4:43:25 PM PST by Mojave
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To: nicmarlo
We're done. No more RINOs. No more CINOs. Finished.

Exactly. I think it IS causing terror among them. We're seeing it now. The fear in what they say about us is OBVIOUS. We're not moving though.

They can bitch, whine, and complain, and it's not going to change anything.
457 posted on 02/17/2008 4:43:42 PM PST by hiredhand (Check my "about" page. I'm the Prophet of Doom!)
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To: Huck
There was Hunter, who was pretty conservative, but had no money, no name recognition, and got written off BY THE GRASS ROOTS early on. No one told ppl what to do about it. They calculated that he wasn't a winner. End of story.

Exactly. The party elite let the MSM hatchet Hunter. The ppl you are talking about are the crossover voters in big blue states. Quite the Republican mandate wouldn't you say?

458 posted on 02/17/2008 4:43:46 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: calcowgirl
I don't have venom for conservatism, what with being a conservative and all. I do however have some snide to spare for the hissy fit position and those who advocate it. Who aren't conservatives, incidentally. They are "in name only", fair weather birds, who wouldn't know a duty it it bit them. Those, I'd just as soon left politics altogether to take up knitting, and leave it to the grown ups.
459 posted on 02/17/2008 4:43:46 PM PST by JasonC
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To: Arizona Carolyn
For all his many faults, McCain is still a fiscal conservative...

Excuse me? Have you read his global warming plan? How many billion was it going to cost for his little Shamnesty deal? McCain is CLUELESS when it comes to economics.

Amnesty Will Cost US Taxpayers some $2.6 Trillion (What John McCain Supports)

460 posted on 02/17/2008 4:44:05 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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