[tacticalogic]

I’ll make a compromise. I’ll leave off my critique of your “FBI Over-reach” rants if you agree that the Contitution does not apply to a Turkish national in Turkey calling a Jordanian national in Phillipine National waters. If you can see that as reasonable (That the Constitution covers US territory and US nationals and not other citizens in other nations), then you should re-read the PAA and FISA legislation - and you’ll see that having FISA extend to Foreign-to-foreign calls simply because the comms go THROUGH the US is an unwarranted attack on the Constitution.

According to the article, RP thinks that's perfectly allowable under the Constitution. Whoever posted the article seems to consider this "lunacy".

[Republicanus_Tyrannus]

Exactly, and the PAA was extended over the objections of the President instead of having a simple exception as RP stated (first time I agreed with him) as well as a protection for telecoms who cooperate with a FISA request.

Instead, now PAA lapses and ALL the stuff goes through FISA, which blinds us to activation calls, coordination calls, and disposable contact numbers for action groups positioned previously if they are in US territory.

Some of those last will get through now. For the next 10 days, the terrorists have been told how to operate in the clear on our soil with an assured number of untraceable calls for a pre-determined level of security.

This is a lot more complex than Wired lumping all intercepts of all types under one classification that changed only once in our entire history.