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To: snowrip
Except that Lieberman and Hillary stand for, and vote for, different things on many issues.

What's their main area of difference? National defense. Same as with her and McCain. That's why I pointed to the tagline. Try looking at it again.

That's great. I guess we should probably just ignore his entire voting record, and focus only on his statements and actions of the past few days. Would that include his referring to conservatives as "...those so-called conservatives..." during an interview with Larry King? After all, that just happened yesterday. Now that I think of it, maybe instead we should just focus on his promises, instead of his actions. Then, you could truly accept him as a liberal.

Hmmmm...you would almost think I said he was the second coming of Reagan, instead of what I said, which was that he faces two people who would be absolutely inept as Commander-in-Chief. Yes, let's ignore Obama's voting record too, then we can all live in the dream world where Obama is the conservative choice for President in 2008.

156 posted on 02/15/2008 8:05:23 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (It is not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Yes, let's ignore Obama's voting record too, then we can all live in the dream world where Obama is the conservative choice for President in 2008

Yes, let's do that, because that's exactly what I've written in every post where I criticize McCain. In fact, I have done nothing of the sort... ever.

We have arrived at, for lack of a better term, a crappy, crappy place here in America. With every illegal alien, tax scam, welfare expansion, defense cut, policy compromise, constitutional breach, social intrusion, trade giveaway and apology, we slide a little bit closer to full-blown socialism. Every time we elect a politician instead of a leader, we weaken our country. We have given both parties chance after chance to arrest the decline of our civilization... one group seems disintersted in, and the other openly hostile to, the future of America and Americans.For the democrats, we have a socialist and a communist running for the office of president. For the republicans, we have a man who embraces nearly every position as the two aforementioned buffoons.

As conservatives, we are particularly invested in the survival of our culture and our country. We see that voting the status quo has gotten our country nothing... nothing but broken promises. McCain is a status quo vote. It is true he has vowed to finish the Iraq conflict to the satisfaction of the United States; however, we have to see beyond that one facet in the war on terror. How is the future of America affected if win in Iraq, but pass a law giving voting rights to 65-140 million avowed Marxists with no respect for the law? How is the future of America affected if LOST or the SPP, both of which McCain supports, come to fruition? Moreover, how is the WOT affected if we treat terrorists as civilian criminals, granting them full legal protection under American law along with a free defense by the ACLU... as McCain advocates?

This is the impasse we find ourselves in. Do we vote for the lesser of two evils... again? Do we vote the establishment and get a wacko globalist... again? Do we vote for party ahead of country, when that party lies drunk with its own power, too weak and stupid to protect our country? That's what got us into the position we're in today. Do we hold our noses, compromise our values, and HOPE that McCain doesn't sell us even further down the river than we already are? Or, do we take a stand for something?

Our forefathers took a stand... against Britain, against Germany, against the Axis powers. Each time, things got worse before they got better. Each time, we as Americans had a difficult load to bear. Each time, we as a country had to sacrifice. We had to hunker down, and we had to keep our powder dry... sometimes metaphorically, and sometimes physically. Today we face enemies outside our country, but these are the enemies that are easiest to identify and to beat. The greatest danger to our future and our freedom lies within our own borders, in electing someone that will give away the things we have fought so hard to win and keep.

America needs a leader, not a politician. That leader will be a conservative, not a liberal, because true conservativism is the greatest protector of American values and American prosperity. Electing John McCain ensures the demise of the conservative movement as a political force... be it through public perception of his administration, through his embrace of liberal ideals, or through amnesty.

I believe that it is time to end the status quo in Washington, because the future of America is at stake.

I believe that our republican leaders no longer have the best interests of our country at heart.

I believe that the time for sacrifice has once again arrived, and I believe that a time for a political revolution, of sorts, is at hand. If that means allowing the country to see what happens when the liberals are in control, than THAT IS THE SACRIFICE WE MUST MAKE. It is always darkest before the dawn.

I was raised to take the right road, even if that road is the hardest, the longest, and the least easy to bear. I suspect that you were, too. Keep your powder dry.
191 posted on 02/16/2008 6:45:14 AM PST by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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