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To: Das Outsider

Actually, I do think civil authority has broken down.

There are whole blocks of streets in Los Angeles that
behave autonomously as Mexican citizens. They raise
chickens and pack multiple families into single rooms
and garages, completely ignoring our laws.

IMHO, the military are honorable, disciplined, literate,
educated, informed and conservative patriots. In their
hands, our country would at least have the hope of
security and the will to bring it back from the brink.

INSERT: I just got this in my email.

WHAT COSTS MORE PER YEAR THAN THE IRAQ WAR?

Illegal Aliens Cause Massive Cuts For US Seniors - December 4, 2007
http://rense.com/general79/seniors.htm

I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. I have included the URL’s for verification of the following facts:

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year. http://tinyurl.com/zob77

2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English! http://us.f820.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose??

5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies. http://us.f820.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose??

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens. http://us.f820.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose??

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens. http://us.f820.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose??

8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare and Social Services by the American taxpayers. http://us.f820.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose??

9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens. http://us.f820.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose??

10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that’s two-and-a-half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US. http://us.f820.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose??

11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border. Homeland Security Report.
http://us.f820.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose??

12. The National Policy Institute, “estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.” http://us.f820.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose??

13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin. http://us.f820.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose??

14. “The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States”. http://us.f820.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose??

Total cost is a whooping... $338.3 BILLION A YEAR!!!
If this doesn’t bother you then just delete the message, but on the other hand, if it does raise the hair on the back of your neck, then forward it.

Snopes is provided for doubters:
http://us.f820.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose??

Social Security Change For 2008

The United States Senate voted to extend Social Security Benefits to Illegal Aliens beginning in 2008. The following are the senators who voted to give illegal aliens Social Security benefits. They are grouped by home state. If a state is not listed, there was no voting representative.

Alaska: Stevens (R)
Arizona : McCain (R) Wants to be President
Arkansas : Lincoln (D) Pryor (D)
California : Boxer (D) Feinstein (D)
Colorado : Salazar (D)
Connecticut : Dodd (D) Lieberman (D)
Delaware : Biden (D) Carper (D)
Florida : Martinez (R)
Hawaii : Akaka (D) Inouye (D)
Illinois : Durbin (D) Obama (D) The people are so fed up with Bush, he may get nominated
Indiana : Bayh (D) Lugar (R)
Iowa : Harkin (D)
Kansas : Brownback (R)
Louisiana : Landrieu (D)
Maryland : Mikulski (D) Sarbanes (D)
Massachusetts : Kennedy (D) Kerry (D) wanted to lead the country
Montana : Baucus (D)
Nebraska : Hagel (R)
Nevada : Reid (D)
New Jersey : Lautenberg (D) Menendez (D)
New Mexico : Bingaman (D)
New York : Clinton (D) Schumer (D) Presidential wannabe
North Dakota : Dorgan (D)
Ohio : DeWine (R) Voinovich(R)
Oregon : Wyden (D)
Pennsylvania : Specter (R)
Rhode Island : Chafee (R) Reed (D)
South Carolina : Graham (R)
South Dakota : Johnson (D)
Vermont : Jeffords (I) Leahy (D)
Washington : Cantwell (D) Murray (D)
Wisconsin : Feingold (D) Kohl (D)

SEND THIS TO ALL YOU KNOW. THE ENTIRE POPULATION OF THE UNITED STATES NEEDS TO KNOW THIS INFORMATION, UNLESS THEY DON’T MIND SHARING THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY WITH FOREIGN WORKERS who didn’t pay in a dime.

LET US SHOW OUR LEADERS IN WASHINGTON “PEOPLE POWER” AND THE POWER OF THE INTERNET. IT DOESN’T MATTER IF YOU ARE REPUBLICAN, DEMOCRAT OR INDEPENDENT!


285 posted on 02/15/2008 7:31:44 PM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Jo Nuvark
IMHO, the military are honorable, disciplined, literate, educated, informed and conservative patriots. In their hands, our country would at least have the hope of security and the will to bring it back from the brink.

I also think they are, by and large, honorable, disciplined, literate, educated, informed, and patriotic--whether they are conservative or not. In a state of martial law, who gives the orders? Is there no longer a Commander-in-Chief? This is why I asked whether you were referring to a national state of martial law or something more local or regional. Apparently I have this deep and abiding fear of another Praetorian Guard.

Why not citizen militias instead?

The email insert you provided is a must-read.
286 posted on 02/15/2008 7:49:16 PM PST by Das Outsider ("Fools are paramount in politics..."--Kenneth Minogue)
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To: Jo Nuvark
Jo, I don't have Gibbon's "Decline" in my recommended reading list for nothing. Look at the history of the Roman Empire from the Antonines to Alaric.

To be sure, we are under--by outward observation and definition--an invasion. An invasion facilitated by a "good neighbor" is nonetheless an invasion. A few things could be learned from the history of the Anglo-Saxons as well.

Of your seventeen grievances, and I agree with them all, I think the illegal invasion is probably the best line of argument for the military administering justice over the civil sphere.
289 posted on 02/15/2008 8:08:34 PM PST by Das Outsider ("Fools are paramount in politics..."--Kenneth Minogue)
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