[TalonDJ]

The trick is they aren’t ‘WOMEN MUST SUBMIT’ jerks but simply men who love their women and care fo them.

Now see here, this is a very key distinction you just made. The thing is, and I have noticed this in years of observation, the nice and sensitive and caring guys BOUGHT INTO the feminist tripe they heard and got less assertive. They were the ones that might have done it right. The ones that did not buy into it and stayed assertive and aggressive with 'romance' were the jerks and SOBs.

[najida]

?????

There is a difference between being strong and caring and a jerk.

Most women can spot that.