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Unspinning Karl Rove's pro-McCain math (vanity)
February 13, 2008 | Kurt Evans

Posted on 02/13/2008 12:04:20 AM PST by Kurt Evans

There'll be 2,380 total delegates selected for the national convention, and a candidate will need the votes of 1,191 of them to win the nomination. If no candidate secures that number of votes during the primaries, the nominee will be determined at the convention.

According to CNN's estimates, McCain has 812 of 1331 delegates committed so far and therefore needs 379 of the remaining 1049 (36.1 percent) to secure the nomination.

According to the AP's estimates, he has 821 of 1364 committed so far and needs 370 of the remaining 1016 (36.4 percent).

According to ABC's estimates, he has 819 of 1362 committed so far and needs 372 of the remaining 1018 (36.5 percent).

According to RCP's estimates, he has 797 of 1336 committed so far and needs 394 of the remaining 1044 (37.7 percent).

This means Governor Huckabee only needs about 64 percent of the remaining delegates to force an open convention. Winning 64 percent of the delegates doesn't require winning 64 percent of the votes, since the states generally weight their allocations of delegates disproportionately in favor of the winner.

I don't believe McCain can beat Obama, and I'm not sure America would be better off in the long run if he did. I believe wise conservatives will use any ethical means at their disposal to drive McCain out of the race.

There's plenty of time to turn this thing around. Real conservatives aren't quitters.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; anyonebutmccain; barackobama; delegatemath; delegates; elections; gop; huckabee; johnmccain; karlrove; liberal; liberalvalues; mccain; mikehuckabee; openconvention; rino
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Congressman Duncan Hunter's endorsement of Governor Huckabee
is helping to bring defense and border conservatives on board:

"I got to know Governor Huckabee well on the campaign trail," said Hunter...
"Mike Huckabee is a man of outstanding character and integrity."

Huckabee - Hunter '08

1 posted on 02/13/2008 12:04:22 AM PST by Kurt Evans
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CNN:
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/scorecard/#val=R

New York Times and Associated Press:
http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide/2008/results/delegates/index.html

ABC:
http://abcnews.go.com/politics/elections/delegates

Real Clear Politics:
http://realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/republican_delegate_count.html


2 posted on 02/13/2008 12:05:15 AM PST by Kurt Evans (This message not approved by any candidate or candidate's committee.)
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To: All

“The longer I live, the more convincing proofs I see of this truth: that God governs the affairs of man [Romans 8:28]. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without His notice [Matthew 10:29], is it probable that an empire can rise without His aid? We have been assured in the Sacred Writings that except the Lord build the house, they labor in vain that build it [Psalms 127:1]. I firmly believe this. I also believe that, without His concurring aid, we shall succeed in this political building no better than the builders of Babel [Genesis 11:1-9].”

—Benjamin Franklin, arguing the need for prayer at the Constitutional Convention


3 posted on 02/13/2008 12:06:22 AM PST by Kurt Evans (This message not approved by any candidate or candidate's committee.)
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To: Kurt Evans
There's plenty of time to turn this thing around.

All you have to do is find a candidate conservatives can rally 'round.

4 posted on 02/13/2008 12:13:27 AM PST by Rudder
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To: Kurt Evans

Huckabee is no better than McCain. He may not be worse, but he isn’t better.


5 posted on 02/13/2008 12:16:37 AM PST by Terpfen (Romney's loss in Florida is a catastrophe.)
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To: Rudder

Candidate comparison:
http://f2a.org/coast2coast/ValuesVoter08Comparison.pdf

Governor Huckabee on the issues:
http://mikehuckabee.com/?FuseAction=Issues.Home


6 posted on 02/13/2008 12:17:22 AM PST by Kurt Evans (This message not approved by any candidate or candidate's committee.)
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To: Kurt Evans

huck needs 950 of the remaining 1015 votes. and huck is no better than mccain.


7 posted on 02/13/2008 12:18:02 AM PST by libbylu (Ann and I will be campaigning for Hill. Still a MITTen.)
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To: Terpfen

Senator McCain authored McCain-Feingold’s immoral and blatantly unconstitutional restrictions on political free speech, as well as the McCain-Kennedy amnesty bill for illegal aliens. He was one of the “Keating Five” caught up in the ethics scandal of 1989. He supports embryonic stem cell research and opposes a Marriage Protection Amendment to prevent our most liberal states from establishing legal definitions of marriage that vary from the historical meaning of the word.

On the Don Imus show in 2006, Senator McCain said, “I would rather have a clean government than one where, quote, ‘First Amendment rights’ are being respected, that has become corrupt. If I had my choice, I’d rather have the clean government.” Senator McCain apparently believes it’s possible for a government to forbid free speech and still be “clean”...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=zfq9DPuMX1A


8 posted on 02/13/2008 12:19:09 AM PST by Kurt Evans (This message not approved by any candidate or candidate's committee.)
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To: Terpfen

The drubbing Huckabee would take in the general election would be worse than McCain’s, however.


9 posted on 02/13/2008 12:19:33 AM PST by Koschei
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To: libbylu

http://argusleader.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080208/COLUMNISTS0102/802080318/1157/VOICES08

When John Draper wrote a book on President Bush last year, he focused on a number of areas involving Daschle. Most relevant today is the assessment of the political connection between Daschle and McCain and the mention of a Daschle visit to McCain’s Arizona ranch.

Daschle’s objective, wrote Draper: “To see if perhaps he could make an honest Democrat out of him (McCain). Depending on which staff you believed, Daschle either came very close to succeeding or never had a chance to begin with. Nonetheless, the flirtation did not go unnoticed by the White House.”

When reviewing the book, I asked Daschle about Draper’s comments.

“It is true that we were once close to bringing John McCain into the caucus. There are many who can verify that,” Daschle said.

http://argusleader.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080208/COLUMNISTS0102/802080318/1157/VOICES08


10 posted on 02/13/2008 12:21:35 AM PST by Kurt Evans (This message not approved by any candidate or candidate's committee.)
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To: Kurt Evans

Romney was always the other choice. When he dropped, McCain become the nominee.


11 posted on 02/13/2008 12:22:29 AM PST by Dragonspirit (Mitt basher in 2012: What happened? I thought bashing Romney would move the party rightward? Oh no!)
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To: Kurt Evans
Being that you quoted so much scripture I'm guessing you are a Bible Christian. If so no matter what happens even if it is really bad, it will be in God's will. We know by prophecy that we are very close to the last days and the good old USA is not mentioned at all in those last days prophecy which tells me that something bad is coming our way. It just may be His will that Liberals take over our nation to help get us to where He wants us.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying to do nothing and just let things happen. We need to fight for Conservatism but His will will be done in the end. If you are not a born again Christian you wont understand a thing I've said. Maranatha

12 posted on 02/13/2008 12:23:49 AM PST by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: Kurt Evans
And the Huckster never proposed lowering taxes or reducing the size of the Arkansas state government, merely expanding it and increasing taxes, becoming increasingly beholden to the teacher’s union in the state as he funneled hundreds of millions into fat pensions and benefits programs while doing virtually nothing to actually increase in-class spending.

No sale. There are few ways to make McCain look good, putting him up against the Huckster is one way.

13 posted on 02/13/2008 12:24:01 AM PST by kingu (Party for rent - conservative opinions not required.)
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To: Kurt Evans

” He was one of the “Keating Five” caught up in the ethics scandal of 1989.”

Eeeh... This one gets canceled out by Huckabee’s own ethical violations. What was the count? 14? Yadda...yadda...yadda...


14 posted on 02/13/2008 12:24:36 AM PST by Koschei
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To: Koschei

“The drubbing Huckabee would take in the general election would be worse than McCain’s, however.”

That’s absurd:

“I am deeply disappointed the Republican Party seems poised to select a nominee who did not support a Constitutional amendment to protect the institution of marriage, voted for embryonic stem-cell research to kill nascent human beings, opposed tax cuts that ended the marriage penalty, has little regard for freedom of speech, organized the Gang of 14 to preserve filibusters in judicial hearings, and has a legendary temper and often uses foul and obscene language.

“I am convinced Sen. McCain is not a conservative, and in fact, has gone out of his way to stick his thumb in the eyes of those who are. He has sounded at times more like a member of the other party. McCain actually considered leaving the GOP caucus in 2001, and approached John Kerry about being Kerry’s running mate in 2004. McCain also said publicly that Hillary Clinton would make a good president.”

—Dr. James Dobson

http://www.citizenlink.org/CLtopstories/A000006444.cfm


15 posted on 02/13/2008 12:25:48 AM PST by Kurt Evans (This message not approved by any candidate or candidate's committee.)
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To: Kurt Evans

Yes, I’m well aware of how badly McCain sucks. The issue is that you are not aware that Huckabee sucks just as much.

I don’t need copy-pasted form replies, thank you.


16 posted on 02/13/2008 12:27:08 AM PST by Terpfen (Romney's loss in Florida is a catastrophe.)
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To: Kurt Evans

That disproves the statement? Seriously...how?


17 posted on 02/13/2008 12:27:15 AM PST by Koschei
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To: Dragonspirit

“Romney was always the other choice. When he dropped, McCain become the nominee.”

Senator McCain and Governor Romney:
A wolf and a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2fDUCPfDJiM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=eBRjSe8WvfQ
http://youtube.com/watch?v=a9IJUkYUbvI
http://youtube.com/watch?v=P_w9pquznG4

“Mitt Romney was probably the most pro-abortion and pro-gay rights
Republican official in the nation for the last decade.” —Human Events

http://www.observer.com/2007/mitt-romneys-convenient-truths

Report on the “pro-life” views of Governor Mitt Romney:
http://massresistance.org/romney/prolife.html


18 posted on 02/13/2008 12:28:26 AM PST by Kurt Evans (This message not approved by any candidate or candidate's committee.)
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To: Kurt Evans

OK. Duncan Hunter.


19 posted on 02/13/2008 12:30:59 AM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: Terpfen

“He may not be worse, but he isn’t better.”

HILLARY is better than McCain for God’s sake...


20 posted on 02/13/2008 12:32:01 AM PST by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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