[Donnaplume]

Obama will win every state. This party self destroyed when Bush invaded Iraq to stop non existnd WMD in an unprecidented preemption of a non existant boggie man that has cost us 4000 sons — 30,000 wounded and $1 trillion dollars— for absolutely nothing. And now these neocons that stole our party get to reep the whirlwind. Take cover.

[TCats]

I agree about W's responsibility for some, perhaps most of this. His Father, by his failure to adhere to sound Conservative Principles, gave us Clinton I and W, who has really gone off the ranch, was poised to hand it to Clinton II and might yet if Obama stumbles.

I am most definitely not a Bush-bot and place him in the same boat as McCain. Voted for W twice but would not vote for him for anything now - Same for McCain.

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

Get a grip.