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To: Def Conservative

It’s over. We need to start planning for 2012. There will be a Democrat Congress and White House and a Democrat majority on the Supreme Court.

They are bound to screw things up so bad that we will have a road back.

Start planning now.


3 posted on 02/09/2008 1:52:54 PM PST by kjo
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To: kjo

Why? 2012 is suppose to be the end of the world.


6 posted on 02/09/2008 1:59:03 PM PST by exhaustedmomma (Changing tag for a greater cause: VOTE AGAINST MCCAIN!)
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To: kjo

No it isn’t over.

We need to WIN CONGRESS NOW - or at least hold on to what we’ve got!

There is no chance of having a reasonably conservative President. It is over.

But Congress has a great deal of power. If we can hold on to what we’ve got, and let Hillary/Obama become a focal point for the conservative opposition, we can ADVANCE conservative ideals.

The buffoonery that follows will remind Americans of the dangers of liberalism, and groom a new generation of conservative leaders.

Waiting for 2012 is not an option. We need to go on offense, and the only avenue left to us is Congress. It is time to stop whining and start fighting for the one area where we are still capable of affecting.


7 posted on 02/09/2008 1:59:07 PM PST by Mr Rogers (WIN CONGRESS! - The Presidency is already lost.)
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To: kjo

Agreed it’s over. This poll is misleadingly biased in favor of McCain. Note it is a poll of activists attending CPAC. These are folks biased towards action. More of them will support him for lack of anything else to do. More of them are going to go to the polls to actively vote, even if they do nothing else for him. More of them really are waiting to see if he “reaches out.”

There is another huge segment of conservatives, the non-activists who don’t go to CPAC but normally do contribute in small ways and go out and vote. This segment was not polled here, and they have just lost interest in politics until 2012. John McCain and, unfortunately, Republican Congressional candidates will not see them — or their dollars, efforts or votes — for years. This is a tidal wave about to wash over the Republican, I fear.


11 posted on 02/09/2008 2:03:03 PM PST by Cincinnatus.45-70 (Patriotism to DemocRats is like sunlight to Dracula.)
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To: kjo
They are bound to screw things up so bad that we will have a road back.

Start planning now.

Yes but if we get hosed bad enough with judges after 8 years of Hillary, it really might be too late. We need to cultivate strong committed energetic and attractive candidates. But we must also plan to fight against Hillary's liberal judicial appointments. Conservatives who might have been writing checks for a conservative presidential nominee in 2008 should should plan to "invest" in anyone who can, and will attempt to, limit Hillary's destructive appointments, until the movement recovers.

12 posted on 02/09/2008 2:03:17 PM PST by outofstyle (There's a rake at the gates of Hell tonight)
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To: kjo

2010 comes first. But before that, we need to work our tails off to hold as many congressional seats as is possible.


14 posted on 02/09/2008 2:04:24 PM PST by Mygirlsmom (Clowns to the left of me, fakers to the right-here I am-what's a Right Winger to do?)
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To: kjo

“Start planning now.”

I have.

I am planning to vote for Mitt Romney.


77 posted on 02/09/2008 5:56:21 PM PST by Gator113 (America just traded away the possibility of a dream, for what is certain to be a nightmare.)
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