[rhombus]

I like to think big picture, like an adult. The scenario is having Hilary or Obama make Jimmy Carter look like Abe Lincoln. Then in 4 years we can elect anyone we choose. If we can live for 4 years by not having Al Queda detonate a nuke in a major city it may work. Short term thinking is the “McCain is our only hope” thinking.

That's what I told myself in 1992... 4 years, then they'll all see they should have listened to us, then surely we can take back the White House... Of course it didn't work that way. Four years turned into 8 years and almost 12 years had Gore succeeded in suing his way into the White House. Personally I think plenty of damage was done in those 8 years of Clinton. We may not have as much influence with McCain as we'd like... we have no influence over Billary Obama especially if we demonstrate defeat.

[Sloth]

That's what I told myself in 1992... 4 years, then they'll all see they should have listened to us, then surely we can take back the White House... Of course it didn't work that way.

There was a big shift in Congress in 1994, though... and Clinton didn't really govern as a hardcore liberal. He was more interested in soaking up admiration and chasing tail than in pushing a leftist agenda.

[bronxboy]

What is the use of having the white house if the occupant reaches across the aisle and does every thing the Dems want.

[bronxboy]

You know, McCain changed after Bush beat him in the GOP primary in 2000. He became embittered and exacted his revenge by screwing Republicans. He crafted McCain-Feingold in an attempt to shut conservatives up. I have no doubt he would re-enact the fairness doctrine. He doesn’t give a darn about the constitution. He didn’t consider the American people and the effect his legislation would have-only revenge. I don’t think a guy like that should be President. He is dangerous.