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To: Kurt Evans

————I believe you’re lying.

You may believe anything you like. The first sentence of the commercial is something about his being a believing Christian guiding his decisions.

How about that Obama being ready to save our souls?
http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/017003.php

— that’s religious too. If Huckabee loses will you support ‘religious’ Obamma because he is emphasizing his Christianity?

————Those who believe it’s inherently immoral to engage in “identity politics” ....

Read “Liberal Fascism”. The music of ‘identity politics’ was composed by Mussolini and further orchestrated by Hitler. It has important adherents today with Kim Jong Il, Fidel and Hugo. That we now accept it is a mark that our instinct for democracy has ebbed.

“Providence has given to our people ....”

I agree that this is a Christian nation founded on Christian principles. And a principle that has allowed us to excel is religious tolerance and brotherhood. Does your quote mean we cannot have a Jewish President - LDS President? Isn’t that what Huckabee implied by his bigoted LDS remark?

New York Times ... quoted him asking “Don’t Mormons believe that Jesus and the devil are brothers?”

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MDFiY2ZmZDI5NTRkZjhlZjIyMWE5ODdmZmJhZDgyOTA=

I have friends that are Mormons. How do I maintain a relationship with them as Americans if this attitude becomes more popular?

There is always a tension between believing as a Christian and participating in politics. The resolution historically is expressing our beliefs broadly, inclusively and lovingly. Huckabee is not doing that.

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Does wanting Christian leadership mean we ignore Huckabee’s ignorant foreign policy?

NIE? What NIE? [Byron York]

The Politico’s David Paul Kuhn was among a group of reporters who had dinner with Mike Huckabee in Iowa tonight. According to a transcript posted by Jonathan Martin, Kuhn asked Huckabee about the new National Intelligence Estimate on Iran, and it was news to Huckabee:

Kuhn: I don’t know to what extent you have been briefed or been able to take a look at the NIE report that came out yesterday ...

Huckabee: I’m sorry?

Kuhn: The NIE report, the National Intelligence Estimate on Iran. Have you been briefed or been able to take a look at it —

Huckabee: No.

Kuhn: Have you heard of the finding?

Huckabee: No.

After Kuhn explained the NIE’s findings to Huckabee, Huckabee seemed confused about what it meant.

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=Yzk1OGE2YzZkZTdkNzg0NTgyMDBjMjE1MTZmZDA3ZmE=

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Of course, Reagan said it best...

....The Founders realized that we must guard freedom of religion with eternal vigilance against tyranny and bigotry. Washington emphasized this in a letter to Moses Seixas of the Hebrew Congregation of Touro .....

Proclamation 5866 — Religious Freedom Week, 1988

September 27, 1988

By the President of the United States of America

A Proclamation

America’s creed of liberty has never been expressed better than in the words of the Book of Leviticus emblazoned on the Liberty Bell, ``Proclaim liberty throughout all the land unto all the inhabitants thereof.’’ The American people have long recognized that the liberty we cherish must include the freedom to worship God as each of us pleases. We can all rejoice in noting that a critical step in the history of this freedom was taken nearly two centuries ago this month.

On September 25, 1789, the Congress proposed and sent to the States for ratification a series of 10 Amendments to the new Constitution. This Bill of Rights would safeguard and perpetuate the rights and liberties for which the American people had fought the War of Independence and the States had ratified the Constitution. Because of the First Amendment’s vital clauses — ``Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; . . .’’ — the 199th anniversary of the introduction of the Bill of Rights is a fitting time to begin a week in celebration of religious freedom.

The religious liberty described in this Amendment is the protection of religion and conscience from government interference. It creates neither hostility between government and religion nor a civil religion of secularism. The fundamental principle of religious liberty, that government can neither forbid nor force the people’s practice of religion, was essential to the founding of our Nation. Our leaders knew that faith blesses men and nations alike as it fosters morality and justice. George Washington stated in his Farewell Address, ``Reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle.’’ The Northwest Ordinance of 1787, which the Congress reenacted in 1789, similarly stated, ``Religion, morality, and knowledge being necessary to good government and the happiness of mankind, schools and the means of learning shall forever be encouraged.’’

The Founders realized that we must guard freedom of religion with eternal vigilance against tyranny and bigotry. Washington emphasized this in a letter to Moses Seixas of the Hebrew Congregation of Touro Synagogue in Newport, Rhode Island, in 1790. Our first President noted Americans’ ``liberty of conscience and immunities of citizenship’’ and said that it was not ``by the indulgence of one class of people that another enjoyed the exercise, of their inherent natural rights.’’ Rather, ``happily the Government of the United States, . . . gives to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance. . . .’’


151 posted on 02/17/2008 7:45:53 AM PST by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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To: sgtyork

“You may believe anything you like.”

Actually I can only believe what I really believe, regardless of whether I like it.

“The first sentence of the commercial is something about his being a believing Christian guiding his decisions.”

You claimed the commercial definitely said, “Vote for me I’m a Christian”...
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1966874/posts?page=139#139

“How about that Obama being ready to save our souls?”

Michelle was wrong. We can’t fix our own souls.

“If Huckabee loses will you support ‘religious’ Obamma because he is emphasizing his Christianity?”

I’m not sure Obama’s “Christianity” is genuine.

“The music of ‘identity politics’ was composed by Mussolini and further orchestrated by Hitler.”

John Jay called for Christians to prefer Christian rulers long before Mussolini or Hitler were even born. Do you consider that “identity politics”?
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1966874/posts?page=150#150

“Does your quote mean we cannot have a Jewish President - LDS President?”

Of course not.

“Isn’t that what Huckabee implied by his bigoted LDS remark?”

The question wasn’t bigoted.

“I have friends that are Mormons. How do I maintain a relationship with them as Americans if this attitude becomes more popular?”

What attitude do you mean?

“Does wanting Christian leadership mean we ignore Huckabee’s ignorant foreign policy?”

Governor Huckabee’s foreign policy isn’t ignorant.


152 posted on 02/20/2008 12:55:08 AM PST by Kurt Evans (This message not approved by any candidate or candidate's committee.)
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