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To: bpjam

And you REALLY think the Democrat candidates care MORE for the GOP??

I have a bridge for sale......

Protect the country not a small sliver of an opinion which is almost irrelevant compared to what will be or is the alternative to this man you cannot abide.

If you love Billery or Obama more then you are not a dedicated Republican, letting picayune matters interfere with your mind’s ability to analyze on the basis of reality not emotion.

Respectfully, that’s what’s wrong with the West as a whole. We think with our hearts and lose to those who think and plan with their brains. Like Billary and the Terrorists.


352 posted on 02/07/2008 8:07:22 PM PST by FARS
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To: FARS

Its a tactical issue.

You and I both want GOP members (conservative ones most preferrably) in the House and Senate. We have to figure out how to do that in the face on a fairly badly stacked deck in the next 4 years.

McCain is going to be running AGAINST the GOP in order to get votes. This isn’t my opinion. It’s McCains. He only gets attention when he opposes the GOP and adopts liberal policies. He has supported only one conservative issue which is Iraq (although he keeps falsely claiming that the surge was his idea) and it will be the only thing we agree with him on.

Now, if you are running for the House in Oklahoma, Texas or Colorado and McCain is at the top of the ticket. Do you 1) Stand on a stage with him when he shows up to campaign for himself and have to explain later that you aren’t actually supporting global warming carbon taxes, amnesty and waterboarding 2) Run on the McCain ticket and have conservatives in your own district not vote for you, or 3) Hold your own events and run against Obama/Hillary and against McCain too.

Iraq and immigration are likely to be the two biggest issues for GOP candidates in 2008. McCain is right on one and he is the anti-GOP on the other. So you are likely to have to keep McCains name off anything related to your campaign for fear of turning off the 84% of Americans who opposed his shamnesty bill.

In the 20-30 GOP seats which the DNC took from us in 2006, we have to run conservative candidates to get them back. Those candidates will be pointing out how NOT conservative the dem winner was under Speaker Pelosi after dems campaigned in those districts as conservatives in 2006. Those were pro-military districts with conservative democrat voters who typically went along with the GOP. McCain is going to be a problem in those districts as well as he moves left in the general so what are those GOP candidates supposed to do? Do we run a ‘centrist’ candidate instead so he can match McCain?

You and I both know (or should know) that McCains media support is going to end the day the Dems choose their nominee. You know the old saying ‘When given the choice between a Democrat and a Democrat, voters choose the Democrat’. The MSM will side with Hillary over McCain which will just cause him to move further Left or emphasize his already leftist position more strongly to get that attention.

McCain also believes he can win this election without getting conservatives. He believes he can get a large majority of the ‘independents’ along with democrats who don’t like Hillary and a majority of the GOP voters. He would trade conservative votes for those people in the middle-left since he doesn’t have to change his positions to get those votes. In order to get conservative votes, he has to move to the right which he was barely willing to do even during the GOP primary. It’s virtually implausible that McCain will try harder to get our support six months from now than he has in the last six months. McCain still believes that we will just fall in line and smile as we swallow the excrement sandwich.

I don’t care about McCain any more than he cares about me. He isn’t a conservative although he does agree with some conservative issues. The guy doesn’t have a philosophy at all. Nobody knows where he will come down on any new subject that comes up (like global warming). Nothing I can say will fix him or make him change a single iota of his agenda since he doesn’t take advice from Republicans.

But I do give a damn about Congress and limiting the damage there. I’ve got a House member in my district which has a small democrat voter advantage. What is he going to have to do with McCain visiting Nevada? This is my real problem.


405 posted on 02/07/2008 8:59:40 PM PST by bpjam (Can you help me? I've can't remember where I parked my party.....)
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To: FARS

McCain is a dead duck no matter who many broken glass Republicans unite behind him. That old angry , slightly mad, grump old man will lose big time, especially to the youthful Obama. You might as well vote your conscience because voting for McCain won’t have any impact on the outcome.


419 posted on 02/07/2008 9:12:06 PM PST by Captain Kirk
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