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1 posted on 02/07/2008 10:29:34 AM PST by Dane
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To: Dane

No votaré por McCain.

No votaré por Huckabee.


84 posted on 02/07/2008 10:44:13 AM PST by A message
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To: Dane
Zot me if you wish

You aren't even worth it.

86 posted on 02/07/2008 10:44:53 AM PST by NeoCaveman (other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the theater)
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To: Dane

Nice job; good post and a fair question. We need to unite and stop sounding like the crazy vitriolic left.........this “hate McCain” insanity...is no different than the lefts irrational hatred for Bush.


87 posted on 02/07/2008 10:45:14 AM PST by HappyinAZ
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To: Dane
Is that why McSlime is only pulling 40% of the Republican primary vote?

I'm no accountant -- but that means 60% don't support him.

88 posted on 02/07/2008 10:45:19 AM PST by CWW (Make the most of the loss, and regroup for 2008!!)
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To: Dane

“a lot of Freepers acted like the left with their stern demand that every person must adhere to a 110% litmus test.”

STARTING with the Tancredo, Hunter One-Issue Bomb-throwers...


91 posted on 02/07/2008 10:46:17 AM PST by tcrlaf (VOTE DEMOCRAT-You'll look great in a Burka!)
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To: Dane

The Not So Great Dane has won - now Hillary or Obama will win. At least Rush and others had the guts to stand up. You, well, you are a twirp.


92 posted on 02/07/2008 10:46:27 AM PST by holdonnow
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To: Dane

Barry Goldwater warned against the exact infighting you describe here in a speech in 1964.


93 posted on 02/07/2008 10:47:38 AM PST by enough_idiocy (Romney/Thompson or Steele '08)
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To: Dane; All

Have the faint of heart capitulatd? In light of the quandry many republicans are in ‘to vote or not to vote’. Shall cynicism rule the day?
Was it the pressure of the establishment blue-blood country club republicans to clear the path for McScamnesty that caused Mitt to ‘suspend’ his campaign? or was it his family all concerned about their inheritance? Either way, I’m disgusted. Why give up on something you thought important enough that you would invest so much?

The Republican party has just taken a step down the road to morphing into the demonsocialists....McCain is well instructed and very adept at ‘reaching across’ the great divide (that once was) to bring republicanism into ‘harmony’ and ‘submission’ to the liberalism ballyhooed by the opPRESSive’ drive by media’.
This is the result of the moderate Republicans willing to give up on Republican core values in order to be ‘good guys’ and get the public to love them.Rush says these Republicans want amnesty not just for the illegals here, but also for democrats.
I guess the party potentates (read my lips) have agreed with all the naysayers that “the era of Reagan coalition is Dead”.
Can Republicans win based on a fear and criticizing Billary - or worse, Obama? Rush says that would be suicide because it would be categorized as anti-black, or woman hatred. But where is there leadership? The people who have made a mess of the Republican party are those who wanted to expand the party (to be a big tent) so as to marginalize the conservatives. That makes more sense than any other motivation I can see in the Establishment Republican tactics - in order to get power back from the grass roots they have despised for so long. (retribution for their embarrssment) It is the establishment republicans who have not supported conservatives, now pushing a candidate who has demeaned the base, not cooperated when Republicans tried to get legislation through the senate - in fact, joined the most liberal democrat senators to create his legislation.

Have we the intestinal fortitude to hold our nose while voting for the disengenuous Mcmaverick? We’ll see.


100 posted on 02/07/2008 10:49:07 AM PST by parousia
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To: Dane

How stupid do you have to be to list Romney (a RINO) in the same class as Fred Thompson (a true Conservative?)

Romney was only slightly better than McCain anyway. The party was hosed when Hunter and Thompson dropped out.

Your basic premise is right, though. We were too fractured to rally around a good candidate so we were handed a bad one by all of the blue states.

Yay team.


105 posted on 02/07/2008 10:50:37 AM PST by Filo (Darwin was right!)
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To: Dane

Rush doesn’t have all the votes. It was the American voter the struck. You have been suckered.


106 posted on 02/07/2008 10:50:41 AM PST by bmwcyle (the Beltway crowd is like a bunch of women who have started menstruating together)
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Dane, Free Republics resident Amnesty girl. Wrong as usual.
111 posted on 02/07/2008 10:54:16 AM PST by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.. (A "Concerned Citizen".)
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From one long time FReeper to another: You're dead RIGHT! Spot on!...the problem here is that Rush, like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton believe themselves spokesmen for all African-Americans, Limbaugh really believes himself the "mind, soul and voice of conservatism" and speaking for all of us. In reality, he's nothing more than a bag of ill wind for those who don't share his philosophy.

I'll give him this: He's extremely talented and entertaining, however, because he sought a 4-F draft deferment from Vietnam due of a minor cyst on his butt, he'll never have my respect.

112 posted on 02/07/2008 10:54:22 AM PST by meandog (Please pray for future President McCain--day minus 327 and counting! <b>Vote Mitt=Get Billary!))
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To: Dane

Instead of “an” in your FR name it should be “op”.


114 posted on 02/07/2008 10:55:18 AM PST by Fudd Fan (2008: the absolute worst presidential candidate choices EVER.)
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To: Dane
the results are in and your brand of conservatism is not selling where it counts, the GOP primaries.

Actually, nobody came calling to collect our votes.

And they haven't come calling since G.H.W. Bush took us for granted and "moved his lips" to kiss Democrat butts and raise taxes.

Our brand of conservatism is to the Republican Party what the Black vote has been to the Democrat Party. And both we and Blacks have been treated the same.

The main difference is that we have now decided that we will now only vote FOR someone who speaks for us and not AGAINST someone because they are the lesser of two evils.

We voted FOR Reagan and the country was the best it had been in decades.

We voted AGAINST the Clintons, AGAINST Gore and AGAINST Kerry and all we got was taken for granted because the GOP knew we wouldn't vote for Democrat candidate.

McCain speaking at CPAC today is no better than Hillary going into a black church and saying she had "Come toooo Faaahhhhhr and ain't now ways tarrrrrd."

Hillary knows that blacks aren't going anywhere else but the Dems and that is what McCain is counting on with us.

So, our brand of conservatism may not have counted in the primaries. Which really were not conservative in any shape form or fashion. (With the exception of SC, notice McCain won the BLUE state primaries that vaulted him into the front-runner and then won more BLUE state primaries. And there is no way that Iowa and New Hampshire speak for conservatives.)

But when the final votes are tallied and the talking head analysis wonders why we voted in the other races but did not bother to pull a lever for the Presidential vote, then our brand of conservatism will no longer be taken for granted.

Maybe Blacks will then wise up and do the same to their Democrat masters.

126 posted on 02/07/2008 11:01:54 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat; but they know what's best for us)
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To: Dane

Get lost you stinkin’ troll.


129 posted on 02/07/2008 11:04:19 AM PST by dforest (Nothing left to say.)
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To: Dane

Rush is just telling the truth about McCain. For those of us who have watched McCain for years, we know what he’s talking about. McCain will NEVER be president. The MSM will chew him up and spit him out and he will lose by the greatest margin EVER!


130 posted on 02/07/2008 11:04:31 AM PST by Cricket24 (ULTRA PATRIOT!!)
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I am looking at myself.

I prefer my "brand" of conservatism to yours -- in this case -- and here's why.

Did you hear Mr. Romney's speech?

Mr. Romney said that there is a war. This is no time for the type of division that has emerged and would doubtless worsen if he remained in the race -- you obviously blame the division on us -- so his statement will not likely impress you.

IMO the "division" was healthy. I'd seen much worse (Goldwater v. Rockefeller) but Mr. Romney is correct. There is a war.

We are Americans first. We cannot chance losing to the Rat Party (formerly the traditional Democratic Party).

Mr. Romney has proved his love of Country.

Will the Party now take advantage of that love of Country to rub our faces in defeat, continue to "reach out across the aisle" with its back to us, and march arm-in-arm with the Rat Party (formerly the traditional Democratic Party) to victory over us vis-a-vis the disputed issues?

The Party of Rockefeller, Scranton, et al said that they had to destroy Goldwater as a human being. Has anything changed?

133 posted on 02/07/2008 11:05:17 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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Only in RINO fantasy land is Rush Limbaugh responsible for Juan McAmnesty’s visceral dislike for conservatives and conservatives equal dislike and distrust of this two-bit, lying, liberal collaborating fraud. McCain’s ascendancy was pre-ordained by the corrupt, diseased, and RINO infested RNC when their original RINO golden boy, Rudolph Giuliani, failed to gain traction due to too much socially liberal baggage after which John McCain, politically dead, suddenly arose like Lazarus to be the Republican front runner. McCain is a party machine candidate, made by the party, propped up by the party, and who serves exclusively for the interests of the PARTY, not the dedicated, loyal conservative voter base that the Republican beltway establishment has spent decades smearing, ignoring, and marginalizing instead of serving.

To hell with John McLamebrain and the rest of his worthless liberal ass-kissing RINO ilk. A vote for McCain is an affirmation that everything conservatives have ever believed in, fought for, struggled for, and suffered for was for NOTHING.

If I were to vote for a lifelong traitor to conservatism who has fought against almost everything I have fought and struggled for, I’d be like a POW who under duress was forced to sign a confession that he was a warmonger, murderer, rapist, or baby killer and that his cause was unjust and his country was guilty of war crimes.

I don’t know if John McCain ever repudiated his core beliefs under duress and signed such a confession, but I sure as hell won’t. I’ll take the beatings and mistreatment because in my heart, I KNOW I’m right.


135 posted on 02/07/2008 11:06:16 AM PST by Imperial Warrior
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well i just show people the ACU ranking for McCain vs. HIll/Bama

McCain Lifetime 82 2006 65
Hill 9 and 12
Bama 8 and 8

Given the options i will vote for McCain


136 posted on 02/07/2008 11:07:09 AM PST by DM1
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This is what happens when the GOP moves to left, as it has under President Bush. I still like the man personally, and I think he’s done some positive things, but his brand of “compassionate conservatism” has had the effect of marginalizing true conservatives in the party.

The most obvious issue is amnesty, where the President’s rhetoric played right into the Democrat and media portrayal of people who merely wish to enforce the law as bigots and extremists.

In all likelihood, we’re entering an era of Democrat dominance from which we cannot emerge. After FDR’s landslide in 1932, the GOP moved left and stayed there for over thirty years. Whenever someone like Robert Taft came along and tried to move the party to the right, he was purged and the party brass all got together to deny him the nomination. During these years, the GOP was a virtual permanent minority except for two flukish congressional elections (1946 & 1952) and the election of moderate Eisenhower, who won because of his military background.

We’re heading into another such period. But we won’t come out of it in 30 years because by that time whites will be a minority and we’ll be essentially a one-party nation.


137 posted on 02/07/2008 11:07:15 AM PST by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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