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1 posted on 02/04/2008 11:18:14 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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....do conservatives have to have their knuckles rapped by one of their own---Bill Kristol?.......

Little Billy is not one of us. Billy's in a snit. He is behind the push to religiously cleanse the Repub Party and kick conservatives to the curb. He was four-square behind Rino Rooty's failed plot---concentrated on strangling the American political process w/ its important conservative strengths.

The Kristol crowd are cheerleaders for the worst initiatives the current administration has pursued -- including the immigration amnesty atrocity.

The sap-happy Kristols and Giuliani-----the "Everything-For Us-Nothing-For-You" types----know what they can do with their amnesty-loving, religious-hating globalism.

The Kristol crowd lost with Giuliani----now they are backing amnesty-loving McCain.

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Billy Kristol and his daddy are in that nauseating group of big-government globalists. It was Billy's daddy---Giuliani's foreign policy "campaign adviser" ----who announced the shape of things to come, and I quote: "The historical task and political purpose of neoconservatism would seem to be.....to convert the Republican Party and American conservatism in general, against their respective wills, into a new kind of conservative politics suitable to governing a modern democracy." By Irving Kristol (Billy's dad).

Team Giuliani was engaged in a very dirty game conducted by remorseless people. Good riddance.

75 posted on 02/04/2008 12:07:05 PM PST by Liz (I spent $60 million and got one lousy delegate. Rudy Giuliani)
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I thought the NYT dropped his column ...


78 posted on 02/04/2008 12:16:41 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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I think the author is ten years off with the Jennings quote.
83 posted on 02/04/2008 12:21:01 PM PST by isrul
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Weasel. Low down, pompous jocksniffing neocon poof.
88 posted on 02/04/2008 12:28:33 PM PST by Mamzelle
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He’s a rino... always has been and always will be.

LLS

91 posted on 02/04/2008 12:34:35 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims and vote for?)
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Nothing like reolutionaries trying to redifine the GOP as they have tried to do with conservatism.
Even I, frequently referred to as the "godfather" of all those neocons, have had my moments of wonderment. A few years ago I said (and, alas, wrote) that neoconservatism had had its own distinctive qualities in its early years, but by now had been absorbed into the mainstream of American conservatism. I was wrong, and the reason I was wrong is that, ever since its origin among disillusioned liberal intellectuals in the 1970s, what we call neoconservatism has been one of those intellectual undercurrents that surface only intermittently. It is not a "movement," as the conspiratorial critics would have it. Neoconservatism is what the late historian of Jacksonian America, Marvin Meyers, called a "persuasion," one that manifests itself over time, but erratically, and one whose meaning we clearly glimpse only in retrospect.

Viewed in this way, one can say that the historical task and political purpose of neoconservatism would seem to be this: to convert the Republican party, and American conservatism in general, against their respective wills, into a new kind of conservative politics suitable to governing a modern democracy. That this new conservative politics is distinctly American is beyond doubt. There is nothing like neoconservatism in Europe, and most European conservatives are highly skeptical of its legitimacy. The fact that conservatism in the United States is so much healthier than in Europe, so much more politically effective, surely has something to do with the existence of neoconservatism. But Europeans, who think it absurd to look to the United States for lessons in political innovation, resolutely refuse to consider this possibility.
Irving Kristol (Bill Kristol's father), The Neoconservative Persuasion, The Weekly Standard 08/25/2003, Volume 008, Issue 47
92 posted on 02/04/2008 12:39:28 PM PST by rmlew (Huckabee flip flops so much it makes Romney cringe)
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How could Fox news pick up a guy George Stephanopolis fired?


97 posted on 02/04/2008 12:42:10 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (Fire the CIA and hire the Free Clinic, someone who knows how to stop leaks.)
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"But do conservatives have to have their knuckles rapped by one of their own, Bill Kristol?"

So Mark Finkelstein thinks Kristol is a conservative?

Then I can discount everything else he writes.

100 posted on 02/04/2008 12:46:47 PM PST by Designer
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California's Republican Party "grew up" about ten years ago. How's it doing?

I believe that the California Republican Party decided to make the party more "competitive" (be more accepting of Democrat positions, less "divisive"). That happened when Democrat Gray Davis was elected governor in 1998.

There was much gnashing of teeth and mental suffering brought on by the lie that as Republicans they incurred great damage by supporting Prop 187 -- never mind that the last Republican governor not only won on that issue but I believe the Republicans made great gains in the legislature the same year (1994).

Since then there have been, I believe, exactly three Republicans elected to statewide offices including "star power" Arnold Schwarzenkennedy.

Now the National Republicans are saying grow up and be like the Californians.

I cannot prove it but I am certain that the California Republican Party is run by Democrat moles -- I wonder about the influence of Democrat moles on the National Republican Party.

102 posted on 02/04/2008 12:47:53 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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I do not need to be lectured to by the likes of William Kristol.


111 posted on 02/04/2008 1:32:36 PM PST by sauropod (I'd rather be waterboarded than vote for John McCain)
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The voters had a temper tantrum last week . . . Parenting and governing don't have to be dirty words: the nation can't be run by an angry two-year-old. -- Peter Jennings, November 14, 2004, commenting on the Republican landslide.

Uh.....wasn't that 1994?

113 posted on 02/04/2008 1:35:06 PM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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He's a New York Times conservative, which tells us all we need to know.
115 posted on 02/04/2008 1:37:24 PM PST by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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[C]onservatives . . . can choose to stand aside from history while having a temper tantrum. But they should consider that the American people might then choose not to invite them back into a position of responsibility for quite a while to come. — William Kristol, February 4, 2008, on conservative aversion to McCain.


Bill, Remember 2006? We were not joking then, we are not joking now.


133 posted on 02/04/2008 5:10:58 PM PST by Grunthor (Republicans for McAmnesty suffer from Battered Base Syndrome..."BUT HE LOVES ME!")
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If I could only reach into my TV and get a hold of this pansy’s throat.


135 posted on 02/04/2008 5:14:29 PM PST by Gator113 (McCain will lead our country....into the valley of darkness, with Hillary holding our hand.)
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Careful, Billie Kristol, you’re going to get a good spanking if you don’t behave yourself! (ooops, that might get some other RINOs a little too excited.....)


136 posted on 02/04/2008 5:17:04 PM PST by Enchante (Hillary Clinton: As a little girl near Chicago I always dreamed of the NY Giants in the SuperBowl!!)
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