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To: wita
Just off the top of my head...as a citizen of DownUnder, it would appear that Science in the US has become so politicized it’s no longer science at all...but ideology. Sorry to say, the situation reminds me of the USSR!

...Thinking of Al Gore and the global warming hoax, for example. Stalin would have been so proud of him: Frighten the sheeple with the WEATHER!

19 posted on 02/02/2008 2:50:20 AM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fred Nerks

If a scientist wants to get funding to scientifically study something he must not conclude anything that challenges the religious beliefs of the socialists. Global warming is the new God of the left.


21 posted on 02/02/2008 2:56:22 AM PST by 43north (I hope we are around long enough to become a layer in the rocks of the future.)
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To: Fred Nerks
Just off the top of my head...as a citizen of DownUnder, it would appear that Science in the US has become so politicized it’s no longer science at all...but ideology. Sorry to say, the situation reminds me of the USSR!

It's a byproduct of the government grant system, which has been financing most university research since WW2. If you want to be a professor, you need to be able to finance yourself by bringing in research grants. If you want research grants, your results must not be upsetting to the people who gave you your money

54 posted on 02/02/2008 5:00:27 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (When injustice becomes law, rebellion becomes duty)
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To: Fred Nerks

There are enough believers, that PC will eventually be overcome by common sense. Just now the noisy, vocal, minority who thinks they have us surrounded is just feeling their oats.

My wife has fond memories of down under. One of her more adventurous trips. I choose not to go because as a retired professional pilot, I knew how long it took to get there.

Some might say, who cares how long it takes to find paradise, but speaking of the USSR, your governments actions against gun owners a few years back, reminded us of the same thing.


55 posted on 02/02/2008 5:04:21 AM PST by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: Fred Nerks
Keep in mind that you only hear what is broadcast the loudest. The citizens of most European countries don’t hate Americans and many support the WOT but all we hear about is how they hate America and oppose us. That is largely because we only hear what the metropolitan areas who are anti-America want us to hear.

You are hearing what the Leftists who control the media in the US want you to hear. There is a very strong community of real scientists who are not politicized, and they are as many if not greater in number than the politico-scientists.

An example of this is that of global warming. This socio-political idea was allowed to germinate and grow because few scientists thought that it was little more than a feel-good pet project of the liberals. America is very tolerant of these ideas. When it gained enough strength to affect legislation, however, the forces of real scientists started arguing back. At present there is a much stronger scientific argument against manmade global warming than for it — so much so that for the ecochondriacs and ecocommies it has now moved out of the realm of scientific debate and become little more than a theological debate with the ‘believers’ (pseudo-scientists) calling the non-beleivers (scientists) ‘heretics.’

70 posted on 02/02/2008 5:57:48 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (If Hillary is elected, her legacy will be telling the American people: Better put some ice on that.)
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