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Judges: 'Gay' Exposure OK for Kindergartners
World Net Daily ^ | 02/01/2008 | RTO

Posted on 02/01/2008 7:06:42 PM PST by RTO

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To: RTO

"Did you hear that, lover? Free at last!"

/barf

121 posted on 02/02/2008 4:40:43 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: militant2

From an educational and developmental standpoint, there is no reason for children in kindergarten to have exposure to any sexual material whatsoever. That the material is inappropriate to the developmental age regardless of the nature of the sexual issues involved may have been a better tact to take with the courts than the religious one. A secular court would be more likely to listen to the secular argument than the religious one.


122 posted on 02/02/2008 5:01:02 AM PST by johniegrad
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To: nygoose
You forgot the homosexual judges.

I thought it was implicit in the thread itself.
123 posted on 02/02/2008 5:50:13 AM PST by kinoxi
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To: dsutah; 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
As you drive down the freeway this week, please notice the brand new cars on the road. Please look up and notice the big yellow school bus as it makes it way up to the beautiful homes on the hill.

Everyone of these people can afford private school, and likely every one of those families could get the mom back into the home! All it would take is some very moderate downsizing.

I enjoy soda. It costs about $1 a day, or $365 a year. That is the cost of one month’s tuition at a typical private school in my state. Surely, a family can find 9 bad habits, similar to mine, that would pay for private school.

It is amazing parents who pay for babysitting when their kids are pre-schoolers, suddenly can not afford private school when their kids reach kindergarten. The typical private school costs about as much a babysitting!

I enjoy skiing in the West. Every adult who has bought and paid for a vacation to these resorts can afford to privately or home school their children. The children and adults that I meet on the ski lifts, though, are using government schools. If these families can afford a Colorado, Idaho, or Utah ski vacation, the mom can afford to stay home and homeschool. These parents are selling their children’s very lives ( spiritual and temporal) in exchange for a vacation!

As you go about your life this coming week, please notice what people are doing.

Are families standing in line at the movies, or at the video store? How many times could they do that a year before it added up to one month’s tuition at a private church school?

Are families in line at Mc Donalds. How many times would they need to do that a year to pay for one month’s tuition?

Is this family sitting on the beach and are their kids eating concession stand hot dogs and drinking soda? How many times are they doing that a year?

Notice the cars filled with kids waiting to get into your local amusement park. Add up the gas, the cost of the concession food, and the admission ticket. How many times could they do that before it added up to one month’s private tuition.

When parents tell me that the mom HAS to work, or they can not afford to privately or home school. It is almost certainly NOT the case.

These parents are doing it because the want the government babysitting.

124 posted on 02/02/2008 5:52:19 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
I’m not at all sure that would work. A mass withdrawal would be followed by a massive tax increase federally and a million local increases.

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Why would a mass withdraw cause massive tax increases on a federal and local level?

125 posted on 02/02/2008 5:57:02 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: RTO

“They are just as bad, ...”

Back in the late 90s, we found this to be true in CT parochial schools. We pulled the kids, all 5, out and initiated our homeschooling then.


126 posted on 02/02/2008 5:58:34 AM PST by George from New England (A tax cap should work both ways)
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To: George from New England
CT parochial schools
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The teachers were probably educated at my Catholic alma mater, Villanova.

Wow! Liberation Theology was all the rage!

127 posted on 02/02/2008 6:02:59 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: wintertime
It costs about $1 a day, or $365 a year. That is the cost of one month’s tuition at a typical private school in my state.

Holy mackerel wintertime!! What state are you in?

But you're spot on, almost everyone can afford to homeschool, it's all in the choices they make.

Ok, there are some parents working off a stupendous mortgage they should never have signed onto. That's a bit harder to unhitch. And MAYBE a few can't teach high school courses as well as a public school teacher. I suppose that's possible. Nevertheless, most of them have no excuse. Or rather they have all sorts of excuses and no grounds.

This is a sore point with me and if I keep on posting I'll just offend someone touchy. So I'll close by saying that dependency doesn't always mean living in your parents' basement, or cashing welfare checks; you're not standing on two legs when you let the nanny state manage the daycare of your babies. And the main difference among those three is, you'd be ashamed of the first two. For a little while.

128 posted on 02/02/2008 6:13:41 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
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To: tpanther

Here’s the thing that I remind myself of every day: The Bible says that when things get REALLY bad, when the “man of evil” gets here, WE will be GONE. These things cannot happen until His spirit is taken from the world. WE are that spirit and evil can only advance so far.

Until then, I realize a lot of truly bad things can go wrong and a lot more needs to happen. There is still that whole “hand of God” business waiting in the wings, as when Israel is attacked. God has used many different “hands” in history. I think this country still has a “hands” destiny waiting...


129 posted on 02/02/2008 6:14:50 AM PST by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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To: Abbeville Conservative
Hey you may be on to something. Liberals and gays made a great deal of progress in California in the late 60's and early 70's. Who can forget all the hippies in San Francisco and Berkely smoking pot and having love ins. Surely all this was Ronald Reagan's fault for not doing anything about it since he was the governor at the time.

sacrasm off

Are you sure it wasn't Nixon's fault?

130 posted on 02/02/2008 6:19:08 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: wintertime
Why would a mass withdrawal cause massive tax increases on a federal and local level?

As I see it, using my local school district for the example, if every child in public school puts $10000 into the system, and removing them takes it out, someone's not skimming that money anymore. I know for a fact that the main objection to homeschooling here is the money they don't get for that student. They get it from state and federal sources, and they don't spend it all on the student. Not even close.

Now if the bloodsuckers in other areas are like ours here, they will see to it that taxes are raised to fill those pockets. I admit that is very cynical, but we are talking about bureaucrats.

By the way, here in PA there are charter schools and cyber schools that derive money from the govt, ie taxpayers, and a lot more of them would arise as homeschooling became more popular. Homeschool parents here generally don't favor the charters because they are really just another govt intrusion in sheep's clothing. If public schools suffered a perceptible drop in swag (govt funds to be skimmed), govt would invent Homeschool Commissions, Truancy Tribunals, Alternate Schooling Cooperatives, Student Health Councils, etc., and place them in every district.

"Pretty soon you're talking real money."

131 posted on 02/02/2008 6:27:16 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
It is sad, but you are right.

By the way, I grew up in the Kensington area of Philadelphia. I attended St. Joan of Arc.

The tuition at St. Joan of Arc for the 2002/2003 year was $2,383 a year. They closed soon after, due to declining enrollment. ( Probably due to competition from the free charters.)

$2,383 a year is **less** than the cost of babysitting.

In my current state there isn’t the Catholic school tradition, and private schooling on average is somewhat more. (Approximately $4,000/year for elementary school).

132 posted on 02/02/2008 6:33:34 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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133 posted on 02/02/2008 6:34:11 AM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: RTO

I wonder how many judges belong to NAMBLA


134 posted on 02/02/2008 6:36:28 AM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: originalbuckeye
You have got to be kidding me!!!

Nope - the government-knows-best true believers win another one. Indoctrination is the first step towards recruitment. The public schools in Massachusetts teach five and six years olds about sodomy and that's ok because a black-robed pharisee said so.
135 posted on 02/02/2008 6:41:24 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: wintertime
$2,383 a year is **less** than the cost of babysitting.

Ah, that's more like it. In your other post you wrote:

It costs about $1 a day, or $365 a year.

Typical is more like ten times that. Still, I do believe most people could swing it if they acknowledged the importance of removing their children from bad influences like public schooling for 6-8 hours a day.

There's also discounts, and scholarships out there.

You know how they say, "If you think medical care is costly now, wait 'til it's free!" One could have said the same of public schooling. How much of your local taxes goes to schooling, folks? How much of it would you need to teach your child at home? How much is allocated at every level of govt, to teach your child in school?

Yet those same people who bemoan the health care godzilla coming over the horizon, and criticize the recipients of care at another's expense, are utterly at peace with themselves as they send their kids to public school each morning.

Free education, like free health care, isn't free, and it isn't quality. (Besides, why do you need to choose your doctor? You don't mind having no choice about your child's teachers!)

136 posted on 02/02/2008 6:53:12 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
One of my bad habits is equal to about **one month's** tuition at a private school. I have a least 8 more bad habits that could be eliminated, that would pay for a child's private school tuition. I bet most people do as well.

The following is what I wrote:

I enjoy soda. It costs about $1 a day, or $365 a year. That is the cost of one month’s tuition at a typical private school in my state. Surely, a family can find 9 bad habits, similar to mine, that would pay for private school.

137 posted on 02/02/2008 7:08:24 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: wintertime

Thanks wintertime, you’re right. My second cup of coffee has unsealed my eyes :) You did write that it represented a month, not a year.


138 posted on 02/02/2008 7:16:16 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
My second cup of coffee

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Do you see those long lines in Starbucks? Well, at $4 a cup, plus a sweet treat, each day adds up to quite a few months of private tuition each year.

Just this **one** habit could go a **long** way to putting a child in private school or getting the mom back in the home.

139 posted on 02/02/2008 7:22:27 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: wintertime

LOL! Proud to tell ya I’m not at Starbucks! I haven’t even been to a Dunkin Donuts in about sixty housefly generations.

That said, I make really terrible coffee. :D


140 posted on 02/02/2008 7:31:26 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
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