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To: DogandPonyShow

Anybody who says they would not vote for McCain in the general election is a liberal communist.


18 posted on 02/01/2008 6:10:51 PM PST by John Robie
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To: John Robie

“Anybody who says they would not vote for McCain in the general election is a liberal communist.”

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Much better to be called one than to vote for one.


21 posted on 02/01/2008 6:13:04 PM PST by 1curiousmind (Romney/Thompson 08 - "We're not electing a Sunday school teacher, but a President." Falwell 5/07)
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To: John Robie

Just wait until he “reaches across the aisle” for his Veep.


25 posted on 02/01/2008 6:22:43 PM PST by Poincare (Hope is nostalgia for the future.)
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To the contrary, I think that this whole “hold your nose” idea is just flat cheating ourselves.

The premise here is although McCain has proven to be liberal on a myriad of issues during his Senate, I should vote for him because he isnt as liberal as Hillary.

The first problem with this is that I believe liberalism, in small or large doses, doesnt work. Ever. So do I really want a slow poisoning via McCain versus a sudden, dramatic bad experience with Hil or Barry?

Isnt this like boiling a frog in water. If you throw him in the cauldron when it is boiling, he will feel the pain and jump out. If I put him in and gradually turn up the heat, he will cook to death because the change gradually will cook him. If people are confronted with liberalism full blast, they will reject it, because the ideas are so bad they cant stand on their own. But, if McCain feeds them a little liberalism now and then, over time, we may tolerate it in the spirit of “at least its not the Democrats”.

The other problem is that this McCain/Hillary choice is sold under a false premise...that is, that if I just swallow my pride once, and vote for McCain, then Hillary is vanquished and it only costs me one term with a guy I dont like.

BUT...If I vote for him once, I am automatically commiting to vote for him TWICE, because if he wins then he will also be the nominee in 2012 as the sitting President. Is 8 years of McCain “soft Liberalism” worth it? Lets say I conclude it is....what if he picks a bad VP, such as Huck or Lindsey Graham. They would be the sitting VP of a two term President, and thus would be VERY likely to get the nomination in 2016...so now we are talking about 12 years of non conservative soft soap liberalism. 3 elections where we have NO CHANCE to vote for a conservative because the Democrats are running someone worse. Is it worth that?

The Dems will ALWAYS be worse. I dont want the lesser of two evils, I want one GREAT President. We are never going to get there if we keep voting out of fear of the other side. I dont want to go through a Jimmy Carter type experience, but sometimes it may take that to make the great unwashed realize how badly we need a Ronald Reagan.


65 posted on 02/01/2008 7:27:22 PM PST by SoCalTransplant (Why Settle?)
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To: John Robie

I think that is going too far. The thing is I could vote for him especially if he picks up someone even more conservative like Thompson or Hunter on the ticket. If he tries to put a liberal on the ticket as a VP I won’t vote for him. Better a real 100% liberal that we can rally against than having our party further pushed left.


90 posted on 02/02/2008 10:35:53 AM PST by Maelstorm ("Christ didn’t tell us to go to the government...He told us to do it." Fred Thompson)
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