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Harvesting the sun's energy with antennas (infrared)
Idaho National Laboratory ^ | Not indicated | Rachel Courtland

Posted on 02/01/2008 5:11:26 PM PST by decimon

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To: whd23
"H2O molecules in a household microwave oven."

Very good! That one I overlooked. However, I clarified my question in post #23.

In the case of the microwave oven, available energy is many times that of the solar energy that hits the earth's suface.

Still, a molecular dipole is an excellent example. Unfortunately, I never said that I was giving away a prize. Sowwy! Your reward is a pat on the back.

41 posted on 02/02/2008 10:11:21 AM PST by Outland (Liberalism is a mental disorder. Socialism is a deep psychosis. Communism is brain cancer.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
"One of the problems I see is handling the voltage and current needed to make it useful."

Agreed. Referring back to the original article, an optical rectenna would collect energy, but that energy would be very weak. If you could find a method to rectify the AC at such high frequencies, there would also be some loss.

Don't get me wrong... if one could capture the average 1.2kW/m2 of solar energy on a bright sunny day, this would be very useful. But there are obvious limitations in using a nano rectenna array tuned to the IR bandwidth to accomplish this. The first is that the IR component of the Sun's spectrum is only a small percentage of the 1.2kW/m2 hitting the earth's surface.

Another problem would be thermal stability of the array... at those frequencies, even the slightest expansion or contraction of the metal in the rectenna would severely detune it.

Even a PV cell will generate a useable ammount of energy with heavy overcast on a cold day. The rectenna wouldn't.

Has anyone tried to capture the abundant static electrical potential in the atmosphere? Even Art Bell marvelled at his longwire antenna in how it was able to generate 20,000 volts with enough current to knock someone to the ground. Low humidity + wind + an ungrounded antenna (more surface area, the better) = shocking results.

42 posted on 02/02/2008 10:36:26 AM PST by Outland (Liberalism is a mental disorder. Socialism is a deep psychosis. Communism is brain cancer.)
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To: Outland

You can’t mention Art Bell and a long wire without recalling Tom Kneitel’s “Electricity Stealer” circuit.


43 posted on 02/02/2008 12:23:02 PM PST by LongTimeMILurker
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To: Outland
Another problem would be thermal stability of the array... at those frequencies, even the slightest expansion or contraction of the metal in the rectenna would severely detune it.

You aren't thinking it all the way through again. As the antenna and material expand and contract, it would simply be tuned to a different part of the IR band, which in theory, would have approximately the same energy. Now, if he could get an antenna tuned to the ultraviolet frequencies, he could capture much more energy per sq meter.

44 posted on 02/02/2008 1:00:19 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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45 posted on 02/17/2008 7:00:53 AM PST by southland (Fred Thompson/ John Bolton /08)
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