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NFL Pulls Plug On Big-Screen Church Parties For Super Bowl
The Washington Pest ^ | 2/1/08 | Jacqueline L. Salmon

Posted on 02/01/2008 5:12:40 AM PST by steve-b

For years, as many as 200 members of Immanuel Bible Church and their friends have gathered in the church's fellowship hall to watch the Super Bowl on its six-foot screen. The party featured hard hitting on the TV, plenty of food -- and prayer.

But this year, Immanuel's Super Bowl party is no more. After a crackdown by the National Football League on big-screen Super Bowl gatherings by churches, the Springfield church has sacked its event. Instead, church members will host parties in their homes.

Immanuel is among a number of churches in the Washington area and elsewhere that have been forced to use a new playbook to satisfy the NFL, which said that airing games at churches on large-screen TV sets violates the NFL copyright....

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: church; fairfaxcounty; football; ministry; nfl; superbowl
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To: arthurus
In response to questioning it the gentleman who called indicated it was illegal in the home also if there were more than 6 related or any unrelated people and the screen could not be over 42 inches.

So even a large family watching at home could be in violation of the NFL policies. Perhaps 42" was a very large TV back when they made up the rule, but that's actually quite a small size for a digital HDTV nowadays. I think it's about time for Congress to revisit the NFL's limited antitrust exemptions granted in the 1960's to allow the merger of the NFL and AFL.

101 posted on 02/01/2008 7:06:16 AM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: steve-b
Let us not forget Geraldo getting booted out of Iraq in 2003 for broadcasting future battle plans to the enemy.


http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/31/sprj.irq.rivera/

102 posted on 02/01/2008 7:07:26 AM PST by Rb ver. 2.0 (Global warming is the new Marxism.)
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To: steve-b

and their ratings continue to plunge.

the NFL is 100% stupid.

Those mass gathers WILL NOT BE CHANNEL SURFING.

THEY WILL BE STAYING ON CHANNEL TO THE END.

IDIOTS.

What if the party is just free?


103 posted on 02/01/2008 7:08:34 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

Holy smokes! Wrong thread!


104 posted on 02/01/2008 7:08:38 AM PST by Rb ver. 2.0 (Global warming is the new Marxism.)
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To: Anonymous Rex
And yes, I do think that sports bars pay the same. In fact I know they do based on two bars that my friends own. They pay for their cable or dish services respectively and have no seperate agreement with the NFL.

The NFL gets paid through the cable or dish. No seperate agreement required.

Now, if the church in question wants to be billed for its TV in the same way the local sports bar is, they can arrange so. Otherwise, they are in violation.

105 posted on 02/01/2008 7:08:39 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: longtermmemmory
Ratings plunge?

I was under the impression that NFL ratings were spectacular for games not involving the Phoenix Cardinals or Atlanta Falcons. Am I wrong?

106 posted on 02/01/2008 7:10:37 AM PST by Richard Kimball
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To: Red in Blue PA
I wonder if they would make this same requirement of a mosque?

Mosques won't show the Super Bowl, because the pig skin offends Allah.

107 posted on 02/01/2008 7:11:07 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: steve-b
The law is supposed to keep business establishments from profiting from public use of the broadcast. The churches aren't profiting from the broadcast.

Plus, how stupid is it to keep countless groups of people from watching all those expensive commercials together? Isn't that the whole point?

108 posted on 02/01/2008 7:11:27 AM PST by Sender (Approach love and cooking with reckless abandon.)
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To: SoothingDave
The bars already have paid for the right to display the Super Bowl and other games to a patronage.

Ever listen to the standard disclaimer during a broadcast? It’s for the private viewing of a home audience unless one has another arrangement with the NFL. A bunch of people gathered in a church is hardly a private home audience.

Bingo.

If a business is using the Super Bowl telecast to promote itself without paying a license, that business is in violation of the NFL's copyright. That this particular business is something we support doesn't change the fact.

109 posted on 02/01/2008 7:11:57 AM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: Pablo64

some have church halls.

Not all churches are condusive to a stadium setting.

(actually this resembles a passage in Heilein’s Stranger in a Strange Land where the altar of a church had a big screen holoviewer in the back for the “big games”)


110 posted on 02/01/2008 7:12:46 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Screaming_Gerbil
Maybe I am a bit confused here, but I don’t see how Churches and the Super Bowl go together.

It's a socail event for teh community, liek any other social event the church sponsors. Nothing wrong with that. Many people are attracted to organizations -- even churches -- by the sense of community. Having a Supre Bowl party is part of the sense of community. I fail to see how holding a party and showing the Super Bowl on a large screen somehow violatesthe NFL's copyright, but showing it on several smaller screens wouldn't. I'd get two 54" screens and put them up on each end of the room, just to poke the NFL in teh eye. GO BLUE!!!!!

111 posted on 02/01/2008 7:13:28 AM PST by TBP
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To: Screaming_Gerbil
Maybe I am a bit confused here, but I don’t see how Churches and the Super Bowl go together.

Fellowship.

You are not going to be at worship services 24/7. At some point, you will be doing recreational activities with friends. So, you look around for a group of friends to watch the Super bowl with and, after you consider your relatives, the people on your block and the people at work, you decide that the people at Church are your best friends.

So, you have the Super Bowl party at the Church Fellowsip Hall.

Admitedly, setting up the wide screen TV right IN the Church building right next to the pulpit and in front of the Cross is NOT Kosher.

If you are Catholic, you never have such a confusion.


112 posted on 02/01/2008 7:14:30 AM PST by Polybius
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To: Phantom Lord

How about a Muslim-themed football team? The Dearborn Jihad? Imagine the cheerleaders. Their game plan would include using the bomb quite a bit. Oh well, they’d be better than the Lions.


113 posted on 02/01/2008 7:14:38 AM PST by Richard Kimball
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To: Yo-Yo

Take it up with the NFL. According to the article, it’s an ad revenue thing.


114 posted on 02/01/2008 7:15:29 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: longtermmemmory
and their ratings continue to plunge.

Wha-?

115 posted on 02/01/2008 7:16:00 AM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: Arcy
The NFL is anti-family, anti-community, and anti-church.

Ironically, the commissioner is a Republican. His father was a RINO-Liberal Party Senator. His father-in-law was in Bush 41's Cabinet and his wife is with Fox News.

116 posted on 02/01/2008 7:17:17 AM PST by TBP
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To: Mr. Brightside
I have an employee who is also a bartender. At their bar, they have food, drinks and Superbowl on large screen for $60 per person. I don't know how much they pay to be able to broadcast the game. But you must know that the bar would be pissed if a church next door was broadcasting it free with a large sign out front WATCH SUPERBOWL FREE HERE.
117 posted on 02/01/2008 7:20:45 AM PST by TBP
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To: steve-b

The NFL pulled this crap in Indiana last year. And we are building them a huge stadium on the taxpayers’ back. Screw the NFL. It’s just bread and circuses to placate the masses.


118 posted on 02/01/2008 7:23:48 AM PST by mysterio
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To: longtermmemmory
"Not all churches are condusive to a stadium setting."

True, especially older, traditionally styled church buildings. But, many of these have church halls, as you noted, and a lot of the newer churches are built with ample seating and projection screens for displaying announcements, words to songs, or scripture verses.

119 posted on 02/01/2008 7:27:29 AM PST by Pablo64 (What is popular is not always right. What is right is not always popular.)
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To: VOA
I'm sympathetic to copyright, etc. But the NFL is just dumb on this topic.

I'm sympathetic too; I'm a writer. I just recently sent a short play -- a parody of "Julius Caesar" -- out to a few places to get it performed. They have my permission to do so. (I am quite willing to hjvae it performed other places as well.)

There is no possibility that it will be broadcast from the venues where it's being performed, although someone might put it on CD for me to watch. But if it were being broadcast, I fail to see how the size of teh screen, location of teh set, or number of people gathered woudl violate my copyright, assumign I have given permission to the broadcaster to broadcast it (or to the company to make a broadcst deal.)

The same holds true for the NFL. I cannot see how a bunch of people gatehring to watch this on a big screen somehow vioiltes their copyright.

120 posted on 02/01/2008 7:28:02 AM PST by TBP
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