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5-year-old boy handcuffed in school, taken to hospital for misbehaving
New York Daily News ^ | January 25th 2008 | CARRIE MELAGO

Posted on 01/25/2008 5:28:47 AM PST by fweingart

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To: Just another Joe
You don't handcuff a 5 year old boy, you spank his behind and send him back to class.

Because of the indifferent mother, someday this boy will mature in a prison and be forever a millstone around the taxpayers' necks.

21 posted on 01/25/2008 5:48:36 AM PST by fweingart (Give Hillary a chance. (She'll change your life.))
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To: fweingart

Maybe they should have hauled the parents in also; cuffed of course. There’s far too much dysfunction & parents lacking proper parenting skills in America; hold them accountable for the abuse situation.

Today, they expect the schools to provide the parenting role; what’s wrong with this picture?


22 posted on 01/25/2008 5:48:37 AM PST by Eska ( the re)
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To: wideawake
Not one of them has, to my knowledge, broken a three-quarter inch thick piece of reinforced glass in their school

You're making it out as if the kid kicked out the entire panel. Most likely the kid threw something at the glass and it got a crack in it. Not a sign of superman strength.

23 posted on 01/25/2008 5:48:59 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

I remember the look from my father. That’s pretty much all it took.

I suppose the nanny state doesn’t agree with parents handling their kids.


24 posted on 01/25/2008 5:49:19 AM PST by freekitty
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To: fweingart
Shove the disruptive example of their copulation

Ack. That's nasty. It's too bad you would refer to a child that way.

25 posted on 01/25/2008 5:49:59 AM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Slapshot68
Translation - This poor kid has had lousy parents.

Yeah, cuz physiology-based problems are the parents' fault.

26 posted on 01/25/2008 5:51:04 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring
I don't like government schools. Let alone a police state.

However, when an out-of-control little package goes on an anger rampage, what is an authority figure supposed to do?

As I stated above: you had to be there.

27 posted on 01/25/2008 5:51:09 AM PST by fweingart (Give Hillary a chance. (She'll change your life.))
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To: Just another Joe

No corporal punishment is allowed anymore.

That would be “cruel.”

Legalistic rules apply when students misbehave.

You ask them “politely” to behave and they refuse.

And so law enforcement becomes the only option.

A police state.


28 posted on 01/25/2008 5:52:04 AM PST by Nextrush (MCCAIN IS THE ESTABLISHMENT CANDIDATE, STOP HIM AT ALL COSTS)
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To: Lijahsbubbe
It's too bad you would refer to a child that way.

Wait until this child becomes a teenager.

29 posted on 01/25/2008 5:52:55 AM PST by fweingart (Give Hillary a chance. (She'll change your life.))
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To: Eska
Maybe they should have hauled the parents in also; cuffed of course. There’s far too much dysfunction & parents lacking proper parenting skills in America; hold them accountable for the abuse situation.

DEFINITELY! We need the GOVERNMENT to step in and teach people how to behave! The State is so wonderful in parenting skills...especially as we build it more into a Nanny.

30 posted on 01/25/2008 5:53:20 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: fweingart

We’ve admitted OOC ADD kids to the crisis unit. Erm, they’re a very very very special kind of out of control kid-— think Loony Toons Tasmanian Devil and hitting them just doesn’t work. You basically are fwamming away on a kid who barely notices you’re there and really doesn’t get cause and effect....because the cause is long past by the time the effect takes place.

I’ve seen them not even stop to eat.

I’m not saying a father wouldn’t be a good thing. What works best is a lot of one on one attention, structure and consistency. (And yes, sometimes meds if nothing else works).

Also, kids are growing bigger. I’ve seen a 90#, 4 year old. Granted, I usually see the kids off the charts in either direction. So his age could be right.


31 posted on 01/25/2008 5:53:45 AM PST by najida (I am so grateful that stupid isn't contagious.)
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To: fweingart
However, when an out-of-control little package goes on an anger rampage, what is an authority figure supposed to do?

Release the child to its parent.

Is that such a difficult concept?

32 posted on 01/25/2008 5:54:27 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: fweingart
Schools are in a dilemma now. They have to provide for the child, by law, but some of these kids are violent and dangerous.

Even at five. They not only hit teachers, but they will also attack other students. They also usually disrupt the entire class with their tantrums. They can throw things off the teachers desk, destroy materials, hit people, throw chairs - and God help the teacher that reacts “inappropriately” - sometimes just by touching the student. The entire class, with their parents, can end up in a war against a young child. I’ve see it.

Often the child is autistic or something. And the school HAS to provide services. That means money, money, money that the parents feel entitled to. And while the school gets more cash per disabled child, a really rambunctious child drains school resources. So they really don’t want him there.

Can you imagine this child when he is 10? 13? The school really doesn’t want to deal with it. Their objective probably is to get the parents to place their child in another school. And they’ve accomplished that, haven’t they?

33 posted on 01/25/2008 5:55:18 AM PST by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: fweingart

Kind of ironic that the elimination of corporal punishment has led us down the road of these even more barbaric treatments.


34 posted on 01/25/2008 5:55:46 AM PST by Homer1
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To: fweingart
Wait until this child becomes a teenager.

That has nothing to do with your reference to him at age five.

35 posted on 01/25/2008 5:56:26 AM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: fweingart

“He is saddled with a mother who probably has no idea where the father is, but he does appear to bear the father’s surname.’

Nice assumption your making, essentially calling this woman a slut although you have no knowledge of her or the circumstances. It takes two to make a baby, and the man who sleeps with a woman without consideration for the possible results is just as bad as she is. For all you know the father was killed in Iraq defending his country.

And while we’re throwing bad parenting stones at the current generation lets not forget their parents. The baby boomers who have given us a huge mess everywhere we look.


36 posted on 01/25/2008 5:56:49 AM PST by driftdiver
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To: Gondring

“Yeah, cuz physiology-based problems are the parents’ fault.”

Yes, some are.


37 posted on 01/25/2008 5:59:18 AM PST by Slapshot68
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To: AmericaUnited
The article says "broke", not "cracked."

If it is indeed reinforced glass (which is standard in NYC public schools for fire code reasons), it isn't superhuman strength - but he either threw something quite heavy quite hard that could have seriously injured someone, or he deliberately pounded on the glass with a heavy object until it broke.

That ain't normal. And, like I said, that is a suspiciously large 5 year old as described.

BTW - there are a ton of immigrant kids in NYC schools who do not have a birth certificate on file but only a parental affidavit as to their age.

These are often lowballed by the parents to allow kids to have less challenging schoolwork and for baseball purposes.

38 posted on 01/25/2008 5:59:39 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Nextrush; ontap
No corporal punishment is allowed anymore.

Oh, I understand that.
They schools want to be parents and make decisions about what children can see, do, attempt, etc without the responsibility of having to discipline them also.

Zero tolerance = Zero thought = zero responsibility.

39 posted on 01/25/2008 6:00:24 AM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: fweingart
“Five year old”, Monkey see, monkey do, I bet it is a living hell in that lady's home are the sitters one.
40 posted on 01/25/2008 6:00:29 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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