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To: mtnwmn
With that logic we could have nuclear weapons. There have to be some sort of limits.

Not really. "Arms" as used in the vernacular of the 18th Century generally referred to the weapons carried and used by individual soldiers. Heavier weapons were generally referred to as 'Ordnance'. Under that common interpretation, citizens would be fine carrying the small arms of the day, but hauling around a MOAB, a Minuteman II or a Mk61 would not be acceptable.

Of course, if I found the guy strong enough to carry a MOAB on his own, I probably would not run over and yell at him; he might drop the thing on my foot!

3,142 posted on 01/25/2008 12:52:45 PM PST by AzSteven ("War is less costly than servitude, the choice is always between Verdun and Dachau." Jean Dutourd)
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To: AzSteven
It’s all very interesting. I know nothing about weapons. I’m afraid it is all up to interpretation. Thanks for the info.
3,154 posted on 01/25/2008 3:58:29 PM PST by mtnwmn (mtnwmn)
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To: AzSteven

Has anyone considered what will happen to our Right to keep and bear arms if Hitlery Pimpton, Orgama Winfrey, John McInsane, Mitt Rubbery, Rooty-tootie-Juli-Fruity, or Mike-Praise-me-Huckster gains the reins to power? Not one of these individuals is an honest supporter of the Second Amendment... And I don’t care what “gun group” has signed onto their charade.

I hope FRpers are stockpiling weapons, ammo and food, because I guarantee the RINO-Sociocrat wolves will outlaw everything but squirt guns. The NWO will not happen as long as Americans are armed to the teeth.

Let me point out that the 2nd Amendment is not about hunting, not about sport-shooting, AND NOT ABOUT PERSONAL SELF-DEFENSE (Are you reading this Mitt?) The purpose of the 2nd Amendment, as explained in the Federalist papers, is to preserve the people from a tyrannical government. Our Right to keep and bear arms is about our Right to overpower the central government should that monolith decide to abuse their lease on life, as granted by us in the US Constitution.

The 2nd Amendment is the FINAL check and balance on federal power. For this reason, all contrary arguments advanced, such as Mitt Rubbery’s assertion that weapons must be restricted in their capacity, firepower or lethality (Are you reading this Rudy?) are anathema to the intent of the 2nd Amendment. They can have no other purpose than to disarm the American citizen incrementally.

The supreme law of the land is the US Constitution. It reads that “…The people’s right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” Look up the definition of that word “infringement”… then look up the myriad of gun control law, passed to undermine the capacity of the people to rein in their government, if need be. Incrementally, by continuous acts of infringement, we have been made to become docile slaves, servile to government, and senile of our rights. Gun ownership is not a “privilege”… IT IS A RIGHT. Since it is a clearly defined Right within our Constitution, then it cannot be that possession of any firearm, no matter type or capacity or lethality, violates the law.

The central government cannot make you a felon for the very act of practicing that which is solemnly granted by the supreme law of the land, unless the central government unilaterally revokes the 2nd Amendment, in which case you will then very much need its recourse. The government cannot take away your Right to keep and bear arms for reason of exercising your Right to keep and bear arms! Neither may the individual States revoke that which is guaranteed under the US Constitution. So why have we allowed this to be done? Because we value some imagined security (read ‘comfort’) over our liberty… Soon we will be deprived of both, and deservedly so.

Do any here think the federal government will show up at your front door with a 38 revolver, a 12-gauge shotgun, or a semi-auto AR16? If you believe they will, then you deserve your fate.


3,155 posted on 01/25/2008 4:27:51 PM PST by RTO (What will you do without freedom?)
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