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I decided to die like a man says tycoon who took on an armed gang
Daily Mail ^ | 24th January 2008 | JULIE MOULT

Posted on 01/23/2008 7:19:19 PM PST by PotatoHeadMick

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OK Britain might be a disarmed society but you still really don't want to go aggravating Irish builders.
1 posted on 01/23/2008 7:19:20 PM PST by PotatoHeadMick
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Given the legal climate in the UK, I’m amazed he wasn’t jailed for fighting back.


2 posted on 01/23/2008 7:21:46 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (Is human activity causing the warming trend on Mars?)
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Guys like this make me proud to be Irish :)


3 posted on 01/23/2008 7:22:26 PM PST by ECM (Government is a make-work program for lawyers.)
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Great story! I am curious, though, why he used the gun to hit the assailant instead of just shooting him with it. Not criticizing, just wondering.


4 posted on 01/23/2008 7:23:14 PM PST by A_perfect_lady
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I grabbed the gun and bashed it across the knuckle-duster guy. Next thing is they took off and I chased them down the stairs

He should have just shot them.

5 posted on 01/23/2008 7:24:21 PM PST by chaos_5 (The Republic is doomed!)
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"I have never used a weapon in my life and it was a great feeling."

Get some, Mr. Dwyer!

6 posted on 01/23/2008 7:24:41 PM PST by Old Sarge (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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I wouldn’t bet my life on a gun wrestled from a stranger being real, loaded and functional.


7 posted on 01/23/2008 7:24:51 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (Is human activity causing the warming trend on Mars?)
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The man with the knuckleduster screamed 'He's fighting back the b******"

Obviously a shocking development in the UK. Must have been quite unexpected.

8 posted on 01/23/2008 7:25:04 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Oh, am I hijacking your rant?)
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'He's fighting back the b******, kill the b******, he's fighting back.'"

Judging by this statement they seemed used to compliant defenseless victims
that don't fight back.

9 posted on 01/23/2008 7:25:37 PM PST by MaxMax
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I am curious, though, why he used the gun to hit the assailant instead of just shooting him with it.

He should have just shot them.

To be fair he had been stabbed in the head multiple times. That must surely effect ones reasoning.

10 posted on 01/23/2008 7:27:30 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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He should have just shot them.

Probably going with what he knows- if he had no shooting experience then using it as a club would be at least as effective. Also, as I mentioned in another post, if it was a fake gun then you'd lose precious seconds pulling the trigger with no effect.

11 posted on 01/23/2008 7:27:41 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (Is human activity causing the warming trend on Mars?)
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Re: "knuckle-duster"

Don't know what that is (brass knuckles?)... but something tells me one does not want to get hit across the face with that piece of hardware.

12 posted on 01/23/2008 7:28:32 PM PST by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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A few more details about Mr Dwyer;

*Mr Dwyer, who was raised on a farm in Ireland, came to Britain with only £30 in his pocket and worked as a labourer but is now a successful businessman with contracts all over the world, said: “Then the guy with the knife came over and plunges it in my head three times. The man with the gun ran off.

“I beat the man with the knuckle-duster out towards the door and closed the bedroom door on him.”

But the businessman, who is married to wife Jane and has a second son Shaun, 19, told the court how the pair would not leave and tried to push back into the bedroom.

“So we had another bout of fisticuffs,” said Mr Dwyer, “But this time I’m in charge of this battle. I let the door go and let them fall in and then, bam, had a go at them again.

“I have never used a weapon in my life and it was a great feeling. I grabbed the gun and bashed it across the knuckle-duster guy.

“Next thing is they took off and I chased them down the stairs. I bashed knuckle-duster man with the gun and I broke the handle on his head.”*

From the Daily Telegraph, he has big cojones.


13 posted on 01/23/2008 7:29:06 PM PST by PotatoHeadMick
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Dean Atkins had escaped from Stanford Open Prison...

Hey, guys -- having an open prison is a bit self-contradictory, isn't it? I'd hope that name wasn't meant to be taken literally.

14 posted on 01/23/2008 7:32:35 PM PST by Bob
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Given the legal climate in the UK, I’m amazed he wasn’t jailed for fighting back.

Absolutely true. The English system is quite evil, when it comes to self defense.

15 posted on 01/23/2008 7:33:44 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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They probably charged him with possessing a gun after he took it from the attacker.


16 posted on 01/23/2008 7:33:47 PM PST by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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A third man, Joseph Carty, committed suicide in his cell last year while on remand for both offences.

That's one that will never hold a knife to a child's throat. The dad should have eliminated the possibility of the other two ever doing that again to someone else's child with a couple well aimed shots.

17 posted on 01/23/2008 7:34:58 PM PST by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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Good to know there’s still some fight left in the Irish.

I’m one, too, partially.


18 posted on 01/23/2008 7:35:40 PM PST by B Knotts (If McCain wins, we lose.)
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Yes, that’s what it means, it’s supposed to be for low risk offenders.


19 posted on 01/23/2008 7:35:45 PM PST by PotatoHeadMick
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“if I am going to die then I would rather die like a man than a dog.”

Words of wisdom, especially with a guy threatening to cut his daughter’s throat.


20 posted on 01/23/2008 7:38:33 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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