Posted on 01/22/2008 4:23:19 AM PST by William Tell 2
Thanks Richard, keep me on it.
Well, yes, of course they want power. But what I find really counter intuitive is why people whose ancestors rose from immigrant to billionaire by dint of education, frugality and hard work (which is true of the people I knew), would throw that away in favor of policies that those very ancestors fled in order to find freedom.
One could argue, probably correctly, that capitalists also want power. So do those who champion liberty.
There are all sorts of poor people. Many of the Caucasian, Christian, rural poor are fiercely independent. Many under- educated folks have lots of common sense and know that there is a price to pay for being *given* something. I found, listening to the heirs of power, that they used the idea of the poor and the idea of fairness to gloss themselves in idealism because their real appeal was to the idealistic, young, comfortable, educated middle class.
I have come to the conclusion that there is some sort of familial personality disorder at the root of all this. I spent time with some of these people, knew their children, met their parents and they were not just evil power mongers at any cost. They were, actually, sort of pathetic and vulnerable. People who had everything, including the expectation of leadership, without the first clue as to what to do with it. They could buy positions of leadership through donations/grants, but could not lead, most likely because they have a really imperfect vision of where they are going themselves.
This is not true, IMO, of Soros and Strong and the other top tier manipulators. Those people are manipulating the other billionaires, not just the peons. They are the ones I think you describe perfectly. I believe they also made their own money and rose to wealth through any means possible, at anyone else’s expense, if necessary.
It is like a giant pyramid scheme with the same results. Only the people at the very top and a select few middle managers ever benefit. Everyone else is simply lunch.
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Thanks for the ping!
Why is it difficult to understand that the progeny of those who escaped the poverty and servitude of despots to build vast fortunes through hard work would want to become the despots/royalty? They aren't throwing away THEIR freedom, just ours. I wouldn't call it genetic, but more like the dark side of human nature.
"They [Soros et.al.] are the ones I think you describe perfectly. I believe they also made their own money and rose to wealth through any means possible, at anyone else’s expense, if necessary.
I believe there are far more of the Theresa Heinz, Jay Rockefeller, Teddy Kennedy, types involved in this - ones who have obtained vast wealth without having lifted a finger and are not content with spending their $ for their pleasure, but crave power and control over others and are willing to spend their $ to obtain it.
Personally, I'm not a CONspiracy theorist, but I certainly know how to recognize orchestration when I see it!!! (smirk)
The only reason he (Duncan Hunter) hasn't (caught on) is because FReepers and other conservatives are falling for Fred Thompson's fan dance.
48 posted on 06/02/2007 8:12:07 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
49 posted on 12/31/2007 3:14:57 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
Or Bill Jones in California.
Fred quit less than 48 hours after Hunter dropping out, supposedly because he can't get traction after losing on a KOS-inspired crossover vote in South Carolina. Yeah right, and CFR membership doesn't mean a thing. /s
And all this talk about a recession in the media doesn't have anything to do with the election either. It's just a coincidence that it takes about six months after a market crash for one to set in.
Gee, would the Clintons ever take advice like that? (snark)
Thanks for the ping. Very interesting.
bttt
As to the scions of American industry, they know they are worthless compared to their forebears and don't want to take any risks with all that lovely money. Fascism provides reliably predictable return while concentrating power in the cheapest politicians money can buy.
For the super European elite the stakes are higher. I suggest "To Eliminate the Opiate," by Rabbi Marvin S. Antelman.
I found this very interesting Richard. Thanks for the ping.
Please keep me on your ping list.
Yes! . . and seeing the rousing success “universal” healthcare has been in Canada and the UK . . I mean . . we gotta have it!!
What a crock. Here's a woman whose husband could have bought the hospital and all the doctors in it, and Jay suddenly has this epiphany about universal health insurance? It's funny how when rich liberals show compassion for the little people, it's always with other people's money.
Thank you, Richard. Please keep me on your list.
Thanks for the ping. This is very interesting and I’d like to stay on your ping list.
Not as far-fetched as first meets the eye.
Winthrop Rockefeller, brother of Nelson, David, Laurance and John D. III was once Governor of Arkansas (1967-1971). His son, Winthrop Paul Rockefeller was later Lieutenant Governor of Arkansas.
Bill Clinton’s mentor, William J. Fullbright, and Winthrop Rockefeller had strong ties to the Dixie Mafia, centered, in Hot Springs, home of the boy wonder, Slick Willie.
They saw to it that Slick went to top schools, and then to Oxford, where he never attended classes, never received any degree or certificate, but did wander around mostly Communist Eastern Europe with seemingly unlimited funds, being received in the highest government circles.
Enter Hillary, and the rest is history.
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