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Dangerous Demagoguery (Thomas Sowell)
Townhall.com ^ | January 22, 2008 | Thomas Sowell

Posted on 01/21/2008 9:02:44 PM PST by jazusamo

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1 posted on 01/21/2008 9:02:45 PM PST by jazusamo
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2 posted on 01/21/2008 9:04:19 PM PST by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: jazusamo
America is not czarist Russia or Iran under the shah...

Give the liberals time....

3 posted on 01/21/2008 9:06:22 PM PST by Loud Mime (It is easier to wash dirt off your hands than blood = Gladiator)
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To: jazusamo

I didn’t agree with him the other day, so I’m glad I can here.

I sure hope he doesn’t hold his breath though.

To be honest, I think he gave our side a free pass here. We could use a little more thinking as well IMO.


4 posted on 01/21/2008 9:08:04 PM PST by DoughtyOne (< fence >< sound immigration policies >< /weasles >< /RINOs >< /Reagan wannabees that are liberal >)
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Sowell ping!


5 posted on 01/21/2008 9:12:42 PM PST by clyde asbury (Resistence is fertile)
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Agreed...I believe he singled out Obama and Edwards because the demagoguery they’ve both been guilty of is so blatant and anyone with half a brain should see through it, of course there are millions without half a brain.


6 posted on 01/21/2008 9:21:13 PM PST by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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Demagogue’s, socialists, progressives.........fascists all words that explain what Obama, Edwards, and Hillary really are.
The media love it, college kids and professors eat it up, Hollywood pedals it, and the ignorant swallow it whole.
Its a surprising to me that conservatives have held up this long.
But Sowell is right, we are on a dangerous path.


7 posted on 01/21/2008 9:21:24 PM PST by Fox_Mulder77
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Give the liberals time... Yep. Very good new book by Jonah Goldberg "Liberal Fascism" on this. And his recent article in JWR - Putin's Role Model http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1955608/posts

Turns out to be FDR, and not too far from Hitler and Mussolini - all good orators and demagogues.

8 posted on 01/21/2008 9:25:54 PM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: jazusamo

I agree with your thoughts, but I’m going to have to include the cunning Mrs. in there too. It’s tough to consider what our founding fathers would think of the democrat party today that wouldn’t include some long walks and a short poop deck.


9 posted on 01/21/2008 9:28:28 PM PST by DoughtyOne (< fence >< sound immigration policies >< /weasles >< /RINOs >< /Reagan wannabees that are liberal >)
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To: jazusamo
"Pure" socialist demagoguery is unlikely to win in US an the West right now (Sarcozy easily defeated an outspoken Socialist even in France), that's why most western socialist/progressive/Labour parties now follow politics of Third Way (paying lip service to free market and private economy for a "cooperation of public and private", government and free enterprise "solutions") as was popularized and practiced by Tony Blair, among others.

In US we know it better as "triangulation", as practiced by Clintons - that's why, IMHO, Hillary Clinton is more dangerous as a candidate than "pure" populist demagogues like Obama and Edwards (either of whom also don't stand a chance due to profound lack of Commander in Chief credentials in time of war, which didn't hamper Bill Clinton in 1992 and 1996 because of fall of Soviet Union and "peace dividend", among many other things).

10 posted on 01/21/2008 9:40:01 PM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed — and hence clamorous to be led to safety — by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” - H. L. Mencken


11 posted on 01/21/2008 9:46:40 PM PST by Chaguito
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BTTT.


12 posted on 01/21/2008 9:56:22 PM PST by TBP
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Of course we’re not Russia or Germany. I don’t expect mass arrests or killing on a mass scale.

What I expect is the loss of careers in academia, media, and government by those who don’t believe the prevailing ideology; harassment through regulation against groups and individuals who don’t try to get along; intimidation and threats, usually spoken in soft, kindly voices, with a smiling police official or a government agent standing silently in the background; silencing voices using laws against “hate speech” and “sexual harassment”; and, occasionally, a show trial for those few who are prominent enough or sufficiently vocal to upset the apple cart. I can see the apologetics even now: “He just lost his job, can’t he move on?” or “No one has the right to say things which can be interpreted as hate.”

The end result will probably be something on the order of the Glorious Revolution of the 1660s in England, with elites battling elites, institutions battling institutions, and a few prominent heads rollings, perhaps literally among the fanatics in leftist communities.

At the end, hopefully, we will regain our sense of freedom and individualism, in the same way that the English dealt with their issues of royalty, church, and rule of law. I have faith in the United States, and I really don’t see us at the end of our time in this world. On the other hand, for the next several years, it might seem that way.


13 posted on 01/21/2008 10:01:38 PM PST by redpoll
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I believe there’s truth in what you say and also that this will get worse before it gets better but I do believe we’ll overcome.


14 posted on 01/21/2008 10:06:49 PM PST by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: Fox_Mulder77
Its a surprising to me that conservatives have held up this long.

Because socialism/populism leads to real problems, financial, political as well ad of plain survivorship and then people that can still choose - in a democracy - start thinking instead of feeling and choose real leaders, not demagogues, to get them the "out" of troubles.

After "malaise" of Carter (really of 1970s) they chose Reagan. In states, in NY after Dinkins they chose Pataki, in MA they chose several Republicans for Governorship in a row to keep Legislature in some sort of check and semblance of fiscal discipline and avoid otherwise inevitable bankruptcy, in CA they threw out Gray Davis after things became undeniably bad, in LA they just did the same (though make up of electorate changed somewhat), HI elected Republican after spending the "prosperous" 90s in recession, etc. etc. etc.

However, when things get "fixed" the same populus turns on a dime to vote for "bread and entertainment" and whoever will promise them more of "free" government goodies, wins. Brits kicked out Winston Churchill few months after he was instrumental in defeating the Nazis and winning WW2. Same story in the states. MA is now governed by Patrick Deval, NY by the sleaze Eliot Spitzer etc. etc. etc.

15 posted on 01/21/2008 10:27:00 PM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: jazusamo

I could title this, “Why I don’t listen to anything politicians say and look only at their records.”


16 posted on 01/21/2008 10:55:51 PM PST by sig226 (New additions to the list of democrat criminals - see my profile)
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To: jazusamo

BTTT


17 posted on 01/22/2008 1:37:45 AM PST by PGalt
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To: sig226
I could title this, “Why I don’t listen to anything politicians say and look only at their records.”

Would probably make an effective TV ad. One side shows the pol mouthing on and the other side scrolls thru their real record.

18 posted on 01/22/2008 2:17:32 AM PST by leadhead (Democracy can withstand anything but democrats)
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To: jazusamo

It says something that Hillary is arguably—and by a very small margin—perhaps, the least scary Democrat out there!


19 posted on 01/22/2008 3:25:52 AM PST by guitarist
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Once again a logical argument. he's right about the demagogues.

Their call is for UTOPIA but in reality they want ME_TOP_A_U.

20 posted on 01/22/2008 4:51:19 AM PST by Young Werther (Julius Caesar (Quae Cum Ita Sunt. Since these things are so.))
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