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McCain Wins South Carolina GOP Primary, AP Projects
AP | Jan. 19, 2008 | Breaking News

Posted on 01/19/2008 6:18:39 PM PST by Aristotelian

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To: College Repub

Rudy... lurking in the Everglades.

Are we in for a ride!


61 posted on 01/19/2008 6:34:54 PM PST by littlehouse36 (Why be Europe?)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
10 months ago the only guy who could beat Hillary in a national poll was Rudy G. Where is he now?

Does that explain to you McCainiancs why it is so utterly stupid to be looking at a poll now to determine who to run against Hillary 10 months from now?

62 posted on 01/19/2008 6:35:02 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Instead of "Swift Boaters", 2008 Democrats have "Short Bussers"-Freeper Sax)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

The “illegal immigrants” voters base will truly make sure that socialism lives forever throughout the U.S., and the “Fairness Doctrine” will also be implemented soon after January ‘09, so the conservative point of view will be completely non-existent very soon! Good-bye FR and all other conservative blogs, good-bye all of conservative talk radio, and good-bye U.S. conservatism forever!


63 posted on 01/19/2008 6:35:41 PM PST by johnthebaptistmoore
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To: devere
“I am glad McCain won, and I hope that Huckleberry goes back to Arkansas soon.”

Huckabee is gracious in defeat, saying great things about how he and McCain ran an honest and civil campaign without attacks--the implication is that Romney is a dirtbag--which he is.

64 posted on 01/19/2008 6:36:20 PM PST by meandog (I'm one of the FEW and the BRAVE FReepers still supporting John McCain)
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To: AFA-Michigan

Wasn’t there an article that said Fred will stay in if he makes 3rd place? Right now, he is! Fred 64,198 and Romney in 4th with 61,199 with 91% of the vote in. PLEASE stay in...and I wish RUSH would please endorse Fred before SuperDuper Tuesday!


65 posted on 01/19/2008 6:36:26 PM PST by shatcher
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To: jerry557

McCain would be the worst of all possible results. A mislabled “Conservative” who would factionalize the GOP and spend all his time advancing Leftist political agenda.

No Conservative should ever consider voting for McCain. We worry the others will betray us. We know McCain will betray us. Look at his record for the last 8 years? Been nothing but betrayal and obstruction.

With any of the other canidates we have a seat at the table. We know John McCain will never listen to us on anything.

With McCain Conservatives would get maybe 10%. That would not be worth the enormous long term damage McCain would do to both the GOP and the Conservative Movement. With a McCain Administration we would have a mislabeled “Conservative” Administration pushing Democrat Party polices while the GOP took all the political fall out of the consequences of those disastrous decisions.

Just what could Conservatives expect to get from a McCain Administration? Based on McCain’s record for the last 8 years, we could expect to get tough talk on foreign policy and spending with no real action on any issue.

Do people forget the Democrats trying to get McCain to flip party’s in Jan 2006? Forget that Dems wanted McCain as their VP candidate in 2004?

How quickly the supposed Conservatives for McCain forget McCain’s political record. From Tax-cuts to the War to Judges McCain’s whole strategy has been to be as Liberal as possible and stay in the GOP.

Politically there is very little difference between Hillary and McCain. You get minor variations on this and that issue, like abortion, but over all McCain and Clinton share the same political philosophical outlook

McCain has done nothing for the Conservative movement in 8 years. While talking a good game on spending, he has done nothing. This is particularly galling considering all the issues CFR, Judges, Immigration Anti Torture Amendment-Gang of 14 etc etc etc issues which McCain was more then willing to throw his weight behind an issues to get legislation passed.

McCain has actively worked against the Conservatives on Social issues, on the WOT, on Iraq, on Gitmo, against Rummy, on Immigration and on Judges, on Global Warming etc etc etc etc etc. McCain has far more in common with Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama then he does with any Conservative.

Funny how the Talking Heads miss this. Out of 49 Republican Senators McCain has been ranked 45th by the American Conservative Union for his voting record!

McCain would be the worse of both worlds. A mislabeled “Conservative” Administration actively advancing the Democrat Party’s agenda while knifing Conservatives in the back daily. You could even count on a McCain Administration appointing Leftist Judges in order to avoid fighting with the Democrats in the US Senate.

Tough on Foreign Policy? You think Mr “Close Gitmo and extend the same legal protections US Citizens have to the terrorists” McCain is going to have a “tough” foreign policy? The father of the Baker Commission and the plan to surrender Iraq to Iran and Syria is “strong on Foreign Policy”? Not based on his recored. The wrost thing that a McCain Administration would do is it would fracture the few remaining GOP Congress critters into pro and anti McCain factions. McCain would be the worst of all world politically for the Conservatives.

At least with a Democrat Leftist Administration, as opposed to a McCain Leftist with a GOP Label Administration, the Democrats would get all the political fall out of their disastrous political decisions and the GOP would unite in fighting them. The worst of all possible worlds for Conservatives in 2008 would be McCain getting elected President.


66 posted on 01/19/2008 6:36:28 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Instead of "Swift Boaters", 2008 Democrats have "Short Bussers"-Freeper Sax)
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To: GRRRRR

“The MEDIA is electing our President..God help us.”

By all means, they have exerted tremendous influence in the primaries, and presumably will in the general election as well.

Pretty depressing.


67 posted on 01/19/2008 6:36:43 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: meandog

No Conservative should ever consider voting for McCain. We worry the others will betray us. We know McCain will betray us. Look at his record for the last 8 years? Been nothing but betrayal and obstruction.

With any of the other canidates we have a seat at the table. We know John McCain will never listen to us on anything.

With McCain Conservatives would get maybe 10%. That would not be worth the enormous long term damage McCain would do to both the GOP and the Conservative Movement. With a McCain Administration we would have a mislabeled “Conservative” Administration pushing Democrat Party polices while the GOP took all the political fall out of the consequences of those disastrous decisions.

Just what could Conservatives expect to get from a McCain Administration? Based on McCain’s record for the last 8 years, we could expect to get tough talk on foreign policy and spending with no real action on any issue.

Do people forget the Democrats trying to get McCain to flip party’s in Jan 2006? Forget that Dems wanted McCain as their VP candidate in 2004?

How quickly the supposed Conservatives for McCain forget McCain’s political record. From Tax-cuts to the War to Judges McCain’s whole strategy has been to be as Liberal as possible and stay in the GOP.

Politically there is very little difference between Hillary and McCain. You get minor variations on this and that issue, like abortion, but over all McCain and Clinton share the same political philosophical outlook

McCain has done nothing for the Conservative movement in 8 years. While talking a good game on spending, he has done nothing. This is particularly galling considering all the issues CFR, Judges, Immigration Anti Torture Amendment-Gang of 14 etc etc etc issues which McCain was more then willing to throw his weight behind an issues to get legislation passed.

McCain has actively worked against the Conservatives on Social issues, on the WOT, on Iraq, on Gitmo, against Rummy, on Immigration and on Judges, on Global Warming etc etc etc etc etc. McCain has far more in common with Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama then he does with any Conservative.

Funny how the Talking Heads miss this. Out of 49 Republican Senators McCain has been ranked 45th by the American Conservative Union for his voting record!

McCain would be the worse of both worlds. A mislabeled “Conservative” Administration actively advancing the Democrat Party’s agenda while knifing Conservatives in the back daily. You could even count on a McCain Administration appointing Leftist Judges in order to avoid fighting with the Democrats in the US Senate.

Tough on Foreign Policy? You think Mr “Close Gitmo and extend the same legal protections US Citizens have to the terrorists” McCain is going to have a “tough” foreign policy? The father of the Baker Commission and the plan to surrender Iraq to Iran and Syria is “strong on Foreign Policy”? Not based on his recored. The wrost thing that a McCain Administration would do is it would fracture the few remaining GOP Congress critters into pro and anti McCain factions. McCain would be the worst of all world politically for the Conservatives.

At least with a Democrat Leftist Administration, as opposed to a McCain Leftist with a GOP Label Administration, the Democrats would get all the political fall out of their disastrous political decisions and the GOP would unite in fighting them. The worst of all possible worlds for Conservatives in 2008 would be McCain getting elected President.


68 posted on 01/19/2008 6:37:09 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Instead of "Swift Boaters", 2008 Democrats have "Short Bussers"-Freeper Sax)
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To: littlehouse36

I am all for Rudy G! He would mop the floor with Hitlary. Additionally, the social issues are fought through the courts, not the executive branch.


69 posted on 01/19/2008 6:37:23 PM PST by conservativeinferno (My SUV is the urban squirrel's worst predator.)
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To: College Repub

Rudy? Why?

Giuliani has been beaten by Ron Paul in just about every primary.

This thing has turned into a 3-horse race:

Romney
McCain
Huckabee


70 posted on 01/19/2008 6:37:52 PM PST by CaspersGh0sts
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To: HarryCaul

You couldn’t be more wrong.

McCain is the only one, other than Fred who can beat her.

She wants to pull out of Iraq and ‘resolve’ the conflict in Afganistan.

He is a lot better on national security than Rudy.

And Rudy’s stand on abortion makes him a never for many, including me.


71 posted on 01/19/2008 6:38:16 PM PST by JRochelle (John Thune in 2012.)
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To: cpanter

Wonder how McCain did so well if illegal immigration was the 2nd most important issue?


Sad proof that most people do not vote on issues. Huckabee had the highest % of pro-legal abortion.


72 posted on 01/19/2008 6:38:22 PM PST by littlehouse36 (Why be Europe?)
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To: MNJohnnie
Romny’s got a heck of a better shot then a political hack like McCain.

Romney is a dirtbag! He would win at the most 5-6 states in the G.E., ensuring all those things you're against (liberal judges, high taxes, social reform) come true under either Hillary or Obama...

73 posted on 01/19/2008 6:38:59 PM PST by meandog (I'm one of the FEW and the BRAVE FReepers still supporting John McCain)
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To: MNJohnnie

McCain was for the surge in Iraq way before the President was for it. Rummy never wanted a large increase in troops and McCain had been calling for it for years.
He is also pro-life.
There is plenty to criticize McCain on but he is way above any Democrat.


74 posted on 01/19/2008 6:39:10 PM PST by ruschpa
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To: GraniteStateConservative
At least he is competitive against Hillary

There is no competition if it's McCain vs Hillary. A liberal loon wins either way and our country is history.

75 posted on 01/19/2008 6:39:12 PM PST by Mygirlsmom (Walk Tall - Vote for Thompson in the primaries.)
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To: Aristotelian

I think that the Fat Lady is very close to sing that John McCain will be the nominee of the Republican Party.


76 posted on 01/19/2008 6:39:25 PM PST by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: CaspersGh0sts

Rudy could still sneak through the backdoor and get the nomination.

He is doing very well in the Super Tuesday states.


77 posted on 01/19/2008 6:39:30 PM PST by se_ohio_young_conservative
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To: GRRRRR

“The MEDIA is electing our President..God help us.”

Well, yes, the media has. And Independent and Democrats. You saw what happened in Wyoming and Nevada where they barred the doors and only let in Republicans...

We actually had votes cast for conservative candidates. Amazing, isn’t it?


78 posted on 01/19/2008 6:39:45 PM PST by CaspersGh0sts
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To: ruschpa

If it is McCain, not voting will be voting for Clinton.


79 posted on 01/19/2008 6:39:48 PM PST by conservativeinferno (My SUV is the urban squirrel's worst predator.)
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To: AmericanMade1776

I am glad McCain won, and I hope that Huckleberry goes back to Arkansas soon.


Thank you for putting this into perspective.


80 posted on 01/19/2008 6:40:02 PM PST by littlehouse36 (Why be Europe?)
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