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OFFICIAL SOUTH CAROLINA PRIMARY THREAD

Posted on 01/19/2008 6:06:01 AM PST by vikingd00d

Today is the day.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: 2008; fred; frednumberone; fredthompson; gofredgo; gop; nothuckabubba; notmccain; notmitt; primary; sc2008; southcarolina; thompson
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To: COgamer

It didn’t get much press in the MSM, (surprise) but Judge Robert Bork endorsed Romney too. That should mean something to conservatives. Just an FYI.


2,301 posted on 01/19/2008 6:23:51 PM PST by khnyny (Clinton and Co. are the carnies of American politics.)
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To: womanvet

How many democraps are on this thred and can you pick em out.


2,302 posted on 01/19/2008 6:23:59 PM PST by jd792
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To: qman

If he doesnt shake something up, Either himself or his staff its over. Best we can hope for is a brokered convention with Fred as VP.

He came in 3rd or 4th in every category polled his message is NOT getting out in enough volume.

We already lost one conservative tonight and on the verge of losing another.


2,303 posted on 01/19/2008 6:23:59 PM PST by Bailee
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To: snarkybob
Support comes from many places.

There are some very smart folks that asked him to get in this thing, and those same folks know this race is very strange. McCain and Huckabee are anomalies at this point..

2,304 posted on 01/19/2008 6:24:10 PM PST by ejonesie22 (Mike Huckabee, Tithing via Taxation, the Christian Democrat way...)
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To: HonestConservative

Still have a lot of road to cover too...


2,305 posted on 01/19/2008 6:24:13 PM PST by ejonesie22 (Mike Huckabee, Tithing via Taxation, the Christian Democrat way...)
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To: Truthsearcher

No Conservative should ever consider voting for McCain. We worry the others will betray us. We know McCain will betray us. Look at his record for the last 8 years? Been nothing but betrayal and obstruction.

With any of the other canidates we have a seat at the table. We know John McCain will never listen to us on anything.

With McCain Conservatives would get maybe 10%. That would not be worth the enormous long term damage McCain would do to both the GOP and the Conservative Movement. With a McCain Administration we would have a mislabeled “Conservative” Administration pushing Democrat Party polices while the GOP took all the political fall out of the consequences of those disastrous decisions.

Just what could Conservatives expect to get from a McCain Administration? Based on McCain’s record for the last 8 years, we could expect to get tough talk on foreign policy and spending with no real action on any issue.

Do people forget the Democrats trying to get McCain to flip party’s in Jan 2006? Forget that Dems wanted McCain as their VP candidate in 2004?

How quickly the supposed Conservatives for McCain forget McCain’s political record. From Tax-cuts to the War to Judges McCain’s whole strategy has been to be as Liberal as possible and stay in the GOP.

Politically there is very little difference between Hillary and McCain. You get minor variations on this and that issue, like abortion, but over all McCain and Clinton share the same political philosophical outlook

McCain has done nothing for the Conservative movement in 8 years. While talking a good game on spending, he has done nothing. This is particularly galling considering all the issues CFR, Judges, Immigration Anti Torture Amendment-Gang of 14 etc etc etc issues which McCain was more then willing to throw his weight behind an issues to get legislation passed.

McCain has actively worked against the Conservatives on Social issues, on the WOT, on Iraq, on Gitmo, against Rummy, on Immigration and on Judges, on Global Warming etc etc etc etc etc. McCain has far more in common with Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama then he does with any Conservative.

Funny how the Talking Heads miss this. Out of 49 Republican Senators McCain has been ranked 45th by the American Conservative Union for his voting record!

McCain would be the worse of both worlds. A mislabeled “Conservative” Administration actively advancing the Democrat Party’s agenda while knifing Conservatives in the back daily. You could even count on a McCain Administration appointing Leftist Judges in order to avoid fighting with the Democrats in the US Senate.

Tough on Foreign Policy? You think Mr “Close Gitmo and extend the same legal protections US Citizens have to the terrorists” McCain is going to have a “tough” foreign policy? The father of the Baker Commission and the plan to surrender Iraq to Iran and Syria is “strong on Foreign Policy”? Not based on his recored. The wrost thing that a McCain Administration would do is it would fracture the few remaining GOP Congress critters into pro and anti McCain factions. McCain would be the worst of all world politically for the Conservatives.

At least with a Democrat Leftist Administration, as opposed to a McCain Leftist with a GOP Label Administration, the Democrats would get all the political fall out of their disastrous political decisions and the GOP would unite in fighting them. The worst of all possible worlds for Conservatives in 2008 would be McCain getting elected President.


2,306 posted on 01/19/2008 6:24:15 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Instead of "Swift Boaters", 2008 Democrats have "Short Bussers"-Freeper Sax)
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To: Jim Robinson

It’s Fred, or none of the above for me.

Already voted for a liberal, Christ, and all I got was this stupid “stop global warming” tee shirt.


2,307 posted on 01/19/2008 6:24:15 PM PST by Tarpon (Ignorance, the most expensive commodity produced by mankind.)
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To: madison10

I don’t think at this point Fred could carry any of them. He might could finish 2nd in KY & OK, but probably do no better than a distant 3rd.


2,308 posted on 01/19/2008 6:24:24 PM PST by snarkybob (')
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To: NYC Republican

You’re dreaming...


2,309 posted on 01/19/2008 6:24:26 PM PST by rintense (Thompson / Hunter 2008!)
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To: advance_copy

I look at it this way...If huckabee wasn’t running.....FRED would of won.


2,310 posted on 01/19/2008 6:24:28 PM PST by Fawn (FRED 2008)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Yup...


2,311 posted on 01/19/2008 6:24:35 PM PST by ejonesie22 (Mike Huckabee, Tithing via Taxation, the Christian Democrat way...)
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To: Dog
Pick one.

No.

2,312 posted on 01/19/2008 6:24:41 PM PST by Petronski ("Make all the promises you have to." --Slick Willard, 9 Jan 08)
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To: jd792
LOL!

Trust no one..

2,313 posted on 01/19/2008 6:24:43 PM PST by Dog
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To: restornu
Mitt's Pro-Life? Yea Right...
2,314 posted on 01/19/2008 6:24:44 PM PST by theanonymouslurker
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To: Dog

GO, FRed, GO!! Onward to Florida!!


2,315 posted on 01/19/2008 6:24:49 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: COgamer

See, I think that would be true no matter who won, with the exception of Huckabee, I think all of front runners would benefit from having Thompson to shore up the portion of the conservative base that don’t like them. For Rudy it’s the pro-life people, for McCain it’s the immigration people, and for Romney it’s the people who doubt his move to the right is genuine.


2,316 posted on 01/19/2008 6:25:07 PM PST by Truthsearcher
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To: Jim Robinson

NOTA.


2,317 posted on 01/19/2008 6:25:12 PM PST by EternalVigilance (For America's Revival - Keyes 2008)
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To: Anti-Hillary
Yeah, I support Thompson on the issues, but how can you run a country if you can't run a campaign?

Right now, it's easy to point out his mistakes. He should have gotten in a lot earlier and staked out some serious fund-raising territory. He should have done this or that. The fact is, he didn't, and while we could talk about "it's only one state" when it was Iowa. We've been through Iowa, New Hampshire, Wyoming, Nevada, and South Carolina, now, and I can't see it happening. That's not MSM spin, but with the earlier primaries, you have to get in earlier. I don't see Thompson with the bucks to compete in Super Tuesday. Giuliani depends upon Florida.

McCain, Romney, Huckabee, or Giuliani, with Giuliani fading. The nation is turning more socialist. I see states turning to blue, but see no blue states turning red. I don't know if this is the trend of the future, or the collapse of a party that needs to hit bottom to be reborn.

2,318 posted on 01/19/2008 6:25:15 PM PST by Richard Kimball
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To: NYC Republican

Better McCain than Romney


2,319 posted on 01/19/2008 6:25:35 PM PST by conservit
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To: MNJohnnie
How does a guy who had to fire all his staffers and almost close up shop because he was out of cash, get to where he is tonight??? And how did Fred, who had this thing sown up before he officially announced, get to where he is tonight???

Somebody help me because my mind is about to explode!!!!

2,320 posted on 01/19/2008 6:25:38 PM PST by Anti-Hillary (Anyone but Hitlery)
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