[John Leland 1789]

“They’ve already expelled the hard pro-life wing from the party by banishing former nominee Michael Peroutka and they are really pushing the anti-war, anti-PATRIOT Act, pro-Palestinian stuff lately.”

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Anti-war in the context of modern reasoning for war is not leftist. Anti-United Nations-mandated wars is not leftist. Anti-”wars-to-end-all-wars” is not leftist. Anti-”nation-building” wars is not leftist. Anti-”perpetual-war-for-perpetual-peace” wars. Anti-wars where the press gets planning briefings is not leftist.

Not all people who express concerns about personal liberties (re: Patriot Act) are leftist on that account.

[ksen]

Not all people who express concerns about personal liberties (re: Patriot Act) are leftist on that account.

You must be new here. ;^)

Lately anyone who is against nation-building, perpetual war, the Patriot Act, etc. are considered leftists. There's even an ongoing attempt to get people who don't join the "Pro-War/Powerful FedGov" bandwagon banned from this site.

[publiusF27]

Anti-war in the context of modern reasoning for war is not leftist. Anti-United Nations-mandated wars is not leftist. Anti-”wars-to-end-all-wars” is not leftist. Anti-”nation-building” wars is not leftist. Anti-”perpetual-war-for-perpetual-peace” wars. Anti-wars where the press gets planning briefings is not leftist.

I agree with all of the above, except in part with the last. Propaganda is an important part of war. It's not always nice and clean, but neither is killing people.