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To: raygun
I can't wait until the religious foundations of this country are completely destroyed. Look at the progress that society has made since the early 60's. There is an unmistakeable and drastic improvement of all aspects of the quality of life across the board since those dark days. Without doubt over the course of the next 50 years this nation truly will become that "Shining City Upon the Hill" envisioned by its Founders once it is wholly unfettered by any religious based moral shackles whatsoever.

You mean like The Great Society? Divorce is rampant as is illegitimate births of which taxpayers pick up much of the cost. The collapse of the family in general since then perhaps? The founders were very clear on their religious beliefs. They supported the Bible and it's principles. The one exception was Thomas Jefferson later in his life who basically did a edit of the Bible deleting much of the New Testament. The book "The Light and The Glory" gives a real good insight to the founders beliefs and intent as it was based on their personal notes and private letters as well as their public quotes etc.

106 posted on 01/17/2008 7:30:52 AM PST by cva66snipe (Proud Partisan Constitution Supporting Conservative to which I make no apologies for nor back down)
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To: cva66snipe
C'mon. You just perceive things as being either black and white, when in reality things are merely shades of gray. Look: The Great Society would've succeeded beyond wildest dreams if but for some ne'erdowells that sullied the party with their negative waves. Not enough people were chorusing Imagine by John Lennon. Get with the program for crying out loud.

/sarcasm-off

Did I really need to post that end-tag there?

Sometimes people that take themselves overly serious shouldn't be taken the least bit serious.

I'm a realist. That is I've conceded long ago that I live in a world where pragmatism and practicality are conjoined.

While I agree wholeheartedly and most enthusiastically with the general principles of common to the U.S. Constitution or American Hertiage Parties, I also recognize pie-in-the-sky Utopian idealism when I see it. Idealism is great, and everybody should have ideals, except when they're not practical, nor pragmatic in the world as we know it; then its just starry-eyed dreams/delusions that perhaps should be best bequeathed unto the exclusive purvue of one's religion.

One thing I'm certain of is that a Christian Theocracy would've been a anathema to almost all of the Founders.

129 posted on 01/17/2008 10:14:18 PM PST by raygun (If you're going to curse, do it in YOUR name, o.k.? - God)
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