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Anti-war Soros funded Iraq study
TimesOnline.UK ^ | 13 Jan 2008 | Brendan Montague

Posted on 01/13/2008 9:39:28 AM PST by OCCASparky

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Couldn't have affected it, eh Roberts? As long as you gave ol' Georgie boy the results he (and you) wanted, right?

Soros must be exposed and stopped.
1 posted on 01/13/2008 9:39:29 AM PST by OCCASparky
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"..“The authors should have disclosed the [Soros] donation and for many people that would have been a disqualifying factor in terms of publishing the research,”..."

...Not for Rosie O'Donnell.

2 posted on 01/13/2008 9:43:55 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: OCCASparky
Roberts said this weekend: “In retrospect, it was probably unwise to have taken money that could have looked like it would result in a political slant. I am adamant this could not have affected the outcome of the research.”

And yet the results were 400% overstated. Another fake but true? OK, if you say Soros money didn't slant the research than it must have been the bias of the researchers themselves, because the fact remains that the study is seriously wrong.

3 posted on 01/13/2008 9:44:57 AM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: OCCASparky

Honestly. I find zero rational reason to even assume that any attempt at conducting this survey ever actually took place.

There’s no way in hell that anyone can convince me that anyone wandered around in Iraqi towns, knocking on strangers doors, during the heights of the violent times in Iraq.

If it had been attempted, we’d have read and heard constant reportage of the surveyors being slaughtered.

No youtube vids of beheaded surveyors, no survey took place.

Give me a set of Iraqi phone books and 4 or 5 native Iraqi speakers, and I could easily manufacture such a “survey” without ever leaving my living room.

Take a short hop into Iraq to get the passport stamp and a hotel receipt, and walla, impeachable evidence of proper conduct.


4 posted on 01/13/2008 9:46:29 AM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: OCCASparky

So?


5 posted on 01/13/2008 9:47:52 AM PST by onedoug
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To: OCCASparky

I want to know how it got into the Lancet. This Journal has been around for centuries and is peer reviewed. This demonstrates a total breakdown of the editorial and peer review process I believe is unprecedented. It would be a fitting punishment if the editor(s) responsible for this travesty were fired and the reviewers were removed from the list of contributors. What an abrogation of medical ethics! It seem science is becoming inexorably intertwined with politics and ideology. Lets not forget about money, although I pray not.


6 posted on 01/13/2008 9:49:24 AM PST by AZFolks
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To: Grimmy

You MISS the point....

At no point was this ever about accuracy. It was about PROPOGANDA. And it worked.

It had the desired effect, and it has been repeated and cited over, and over, and over by the Anti-War left.

But, the left has lost The-War-Against-The-War.


7 posted on 01/13/2008 9:50:19 AM PST by tcrlaf (VOTE DEMOCRAT-You'll look great in a Burka!)
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So?

Nice attitude. Do you think this will get ANY play here in the MSM? I just happened to stumble across this while reading the UK sites.

And yet look at how much play/mileage the 'Rats got out of the Lancet study, which some STILL use to further their anti-American agenda.

Tolerating this tripe is akin to supporting it.
8 posted on 01/13/2008 9:51:01 AM PST by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: tcrlaf

No. Actually. I got the point long ago when this first came out and was discussed to pieces at Tim Blair’s blog, long ago.

My point is that there’s no reason to even assume that the thing ever happened at all. The proclivity toward bad practice and blatant manipulation by those on the left is grotesque in it’s extremity and no limits should be assumed to their malfeasance.

I also shake my head in wonder at those who assume that simply because it appeared in print, it must have actually taken place.


9 posted on 01/13/2008 9:55:44 AM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: OCCASparky

“Tolerating this tripe is akin to supporting it.”

Amen.


10 posted on 01/13/2008 9:56:53 AM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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Quoted incessantly by lefties and the MSM, but never this fact: 650,000 dead from March 2003 to March 2006 = approx 4,000 PER WEEK CONTINUOUSLY FOR 150 WEEKS NONSTOP. That number not only defies common sense, not only defies the numbers reported incessantly by the press, but also was never asserted or even approached by anyone other than The Lancet, and this includes Iraqi politicians, physicians, and expatriates.

Yet no one from the MSM ever applied simple logic and observation to this number when asserted by its champions.

11 posted on 01/13/2008 9:57:49 AM PST by angkor ("We are not very many mistakes away from a second Holocaust." Newt Gingrich, Nov 15 2007)
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What a surprise and shock! NOT.


12 posted on 01/13/2008 9:58:44 AM PST by donnab (ordinary men and women do extraordinary things....watch us.)
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To: OCCASparky

Soros isn’t “anti-war,” he’s anti-freedom. I’m quite sure he has fully supported wars that furthered his own interests.


13 posted on 01/13/2008 10:04:34 AM PST by JennysCool (They all say they want change, but they’re really after folding money.)
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To: lonevoice

ping


14 posted on 01/13/2008 10:09:57 AM PST by Pride in the USA
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To: AZFolks
I'm with you.

The Lancet????!!!!??????!!!!

That publication's reputation up until now has been impeccable. What were the editors thinking, rushing this into print without proper peer review . . .

It doesn't take much to trash a good name that has been stellar since 1823 . . . and they're working on it. And you never really get it back.

15 posted on 01/13/2008 10:50:22 AM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: OCCASparky

Support Our Military. And pray for the sanity of our Commander In Chief.


16 posted on 01/13/2008 11:26:27 AM PST by onedoug
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To: highlander_UW

he is not anti-war. he is anti-American.


17 posted on 01/13/2008 11:29:38 AM PST by bravo whiskey (everybody's shot. drive the truck)
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To: Grimmy

It is a technic perfected by Hitler and addopted by Stalin.
“The Big Lie” technic of propaganda.

The idea is that people will believe it because nobody would be so flagrant...

And it works with the uninformed...


18 posted on 01/13/2008 12:08:35 PM PST by DJ Elliott
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To: bravo whiskey
True, but you really didn’t expect the MSM to admit that, now did you?
19 posted on 01/13/2008 1:22:31 PM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: DJ Elliott

Yep, it’s also the angle of lie consistently enough, long enough and the lie will eventually become accepted as truth by simple agreement fatigue.


20 posted on 01/13/2008 3:16:55 PM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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