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Ron Paul, get out of the Republican Party.
Modern Conservative ^ | Christopher Cook

Posted on 01/09/2008 8:54:49 AM PST by connell

Leave. Just go.

Mr. Paul, you are NOT a Republican. You may have views that intersect with some aspects of the Republican platform. That does NOT make you a Republican.

The Republican Party is a big tent movement. We don't apply nearly the same strictness when it comes to tests of ideological purity as the Democrats do, but we still have some standards. And you, sir, do not even come close to meeting them.

People who blame America for the acts of war made against it are not Republicans.

People who think that we blew up our own buildings on 9/11...or who hint that we might have...or who attract the support of people with such beliefs...are not Republicans.

People who may be receiving secret funding from George Soros...and who certainly receive energy and succor from radical leftists...are not Republicans.

People who have become the darling of, and the recipient of support from, America's neo-Nazis and white supremacists---and who refuse to openly repudiate that support---are not Republicans.

And people who publish racist, anti-Semitic, and anti-American newsletters...are not Republicans.

Oh, and your protestations of innocence regarding this racist, anti-Semitic, anti-American newsletter to which you attached your name are absurd. As Jonah Goldberg said yesterday on the Michael Medved show, if...

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To: jpsb
An independent run by Ron Paul in 08 could sink the GOP nominee.

I doubt it. Paul would pull more from the Dems than from the Republicans. He's pretty popular with Code Pink, et al.

301 posted on 01/09/2008 1:51:28 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: bcsco
I'm one of those anti-Paul buddies, and I don't enjoy your juvenile posts.

If you don't enjoy my posts, you support the terrorists. Truth.

Would you mind if I threw this...

You need to either get a life or a psychologist.

...on the "Comments From Fans" section of my freeper profile page?

302 posted on 01/09/2008 1:52:27 PM PST by jmc813 (Don't screw this up, vote for Thompson.)
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To: TheKidster
it breaks down when one looks at the time frames involved. Lott = one night, Paul = 10+ years

One day vs. 10 years. That is not an insignificant difference.

303 posted on 01/09/2008 1:53:21 PM PST by been_lurking
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To: bcsco
it would be for questionable social beliefs that have no place in Republican thought

And being pro-abortion is not a 'questionable social belief', how about being for 'homosexual rights'?

I guess we need to get rid of the entire RINO wing of the GOP, including those who support them.

304 posted on 01/09/2008 1:55:09 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (The power under the Constitution will always be in the people- George Washington)
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To: pissant

Fiscally, yes.

Otherwise... he’s a fruit loop.


305 posted on 01/09/2008 1:56:09 PM PST by FredHead47
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To: SJackson
Top of the morning to you, Scoop.

BTW, I have never witnessed such hysterical shrieking about racism homophobia and anti-semitism since I peeked in on DU.

You sound about as conservative a community college sociology professor from Brooklyn.

306 posted on 01/09/2008 1:56:12 PM PST by jd777
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To: jammer
Yes I did, because I also had a problem with his anti American rantings, his wobbly immigration stance, and his isolationism, now, ask me if I had a problem with him before he ran for president all we all started taking a closer look at his history? Nope, heck, at that, he was held in high regard in the Texas RLC Liberty Caucus.
307 posted on 01/09/2008 1:58:03 PM PST by mnehring
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To: NavyCanDo
Voted NO on military border patrols to battle drugs & terrorism.

Do you know why he voted no to that?

Because the military would be doing police work, not military functions.

308 posted on 01/09/2008 1:59:06 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (The power under the Constitution will always be in the people- George Washington)
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To: fortheDeclaration
The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is.

None of that is anything but your own personal opinion. It is not recognized fact.

309 posted on 01/09/2008 1:59:41 PM PST by been_lurking
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To: TheKidster
You brought up Byrd in the Democrat party...

I've never mentioned the name in this thread.

If it’s valid to accuse the dems of embracing a racist then it’s valid to accuse the republicans of the same.

The Democrats embraced racism prior to the Civil War (and after). It's part of their history. It goes far beyond their acceptance of one (or any) individual. The comparison isn't valid.

The main point to ALL of this is that unless one seeks to associate with racists or actually writes/says racist things themself, it isn’t fair to attach guilt by association.

I would agree, but my point above shows the Democrats go far beyond 'guilt by association'.

I am certainly open to learning more about this whole deal as I didn’t know about it until today. If Paul did endorse these things (with years and years of them being published without his objection it very well may be true) then I’d have to consider him a political leper and avoid him. Until that is proven though I’m going to consider it a smear job.

I understand that. And that's a very good stance. But the Paul campaign has to do more to offset these claims beyond blanket denials. The New Republic, as detestable as they are on this forum, has provided evidence in the form of documents. The Paul campaign has to provide something of equal weight.

310 posted on 01/09/2008 2:01:01 PM PST by bcsco (Huckleberry Hound - Another dope from Hope!)
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To: TheKidster
I’ll say it again, what good will winning the war on terror do if we live in a socialist country that is hostile to domestic business interests and the GOD given rights our constitution was written to protect?

Well put.

311 posted on 01/09/2008 2:02:24 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (The power under the Constitution will always be in the people- George Washington)
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To: fortheDeclaration
Because the military would be doing police work, not military functions.

What military functions can the military perform, when they are all penned up inside the U.S.?

Isn't pulling all of the U.S. military out of overseas bases a central plank in the Ron Paul platform?

312 posted on 01/09/2008 2:02:33 PM PST by been_lurking
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To: connell
The Republican Party is a big tent movement. We don't apply nearly the same strictness when it comes to tests of ideological purity as the Democrats do

Oh, please. What strict standards of ideological purity would have Zell Miller and Dennis Kucinich in the same party at the same time?

It's a good idea to draw sharp contrasts between the parties, but let's be honest about it. Play it straight.

313 posted on 01/09/2008 2:03:54 PM PST by ReignOfError
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To: BlazingArizona

Imagine that, pretty pathetic


314 posted on 01/09/2008 2:05:07 PM PST by italianquaker (Is there anything Ron Paul doesn't blame the USA for?)
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To: ReignOfError
Good point.
Is there room for a pro-lifer in the Democrat party?
Is there room for a pro-national defense person in the Democrat party?
Is there room for an anti-amnesty advocate in the Democrat party?
Is there room for a pro-Second Amendment champion in the Democrat party?
Is there room for a pro-right to work advocate in the Democrat party?

They like to call themselves tolerant, only as long as they can define what is acceptable.

315 posted on 01/09/2008 2:06:19 PM PST by mnehring
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To: jmc813
Me: I'm one of those anti-Paul buddies, and I don't enjoy your juvenile posts.

You: If you don't enjoy my posts, you support the terrorists. Truth.

Would you mind if I threw this...

That's stupid. Your posts are about syntax and grammar. So it makes me a terrorist supporter if I think your posts are stupid? Yeah right. Go ahead and post that and I'll have you for breakfast, jerk.

...on the "Comments From Fans" section of my freeper profile page?

This makes no sense. Get of the booze of whatever you're on. It does you no good.

316 posted on 01/09/2008 2:06:33 PM PST by bcsco (Huckleberry Hound - Another dope from Hope!)
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To: fortheDeclaration
No, they aren't against fighting defensive wars.

If so, then why are a steady stream of anti-WW II articles still staple fare on the Rockwell site? I'm talking about articles claiming that Pearl Harbor was "America's fault" (for embargoing oil shipments to Tojo after the Rape of Nanking) and claiming that Adolf Hitler was Europe's problem alone, posing no threat to America. I'm talking about tearjerkers that run every year on the anniversary dates of Dresden and Hiroshima claiming that the US gratuitously attacked civilian populations for no particular reason.

The Rockwellites are also against the defensive war we're in right now. This position is NOT just the "Iraq was unnecessary" line we hear from the Democrats. The Rockwelites believed that 9/11 itself was America's fault and that we had no right to retaliate in any way, including in Afghanistan right after 9/11 itself. This stems from the Rockwellite core belief that because the South should have won the Civil War, all American activities after that have been by definition illegitimate and that we deserve to be conquered by any enemy, including Adolf Hitler and Osama bin Laden, who has the military strength to attack us.

317 posted on 01/09/2008 2:06:35 PM PST by BlazingArizona
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To: fortheDeclaration
And being pro-abortion is not a 'questionable social belief', how about being for 'homosexual rights'?

I've never said other candidates don't have views outside of conservative values.

I guess we need to get rid of the entire RINO wing of the GOP, including those who support them.

That's an idea. But it doesn't mean we have to embrace someone who seems associated with antisemitic, Truther, and neo-nazi dogma.

318 posted on 01/09/2008 2:10:00 PM PST by bcsco (Huckleberry Hound - Another dope from Hope!)
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To: HoustonTech
If I had to pick between big government and racist hate groups, I’d have to take the big government. It’s a good thing we don’t have to make that choice.

You are getting Big Government because of the racist hate groups, since that is the basis for 'hate crime' legislation.

Soon it will be considered 'hate speech' to denounce homosexuality from the pulpits.

It is indeed amazing how 'PC' many of the posters on FR have become.

319 posted on 01/09/2008 2:10:47 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (The power under the Constitution will always be in the people- George Washington)
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To: bcsco
So it makes me a terrorist supporter if I think your posts are stupid? Yeah right. Go ahead and post that and I'll have you for breakfast, jerk.

Ummm, if you don't like my posts you support the terrorists?

Get of the booze of whatever you're on.

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320 posted on 01/09/2008 2:12:34 PM PST by jmc813 (Don't screw this up, vote for Thompson.)
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