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36 posted on 01/08/2008 8:42:46 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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Look, is there any chance you could re-insert the comment [as sanitized]?

The piece doesn't make any sense without the links to Sandy Berger.

39 posted on 01/08/2008 8:54:28 AM PST by KayEyeDoubleDee (const Tag &referenceToConstTag)
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Right off the bat, I have to concede that Sibel Edmonds is too gorgeous not to raise suspicion:
http://images.google.com/images?safe=off&q=sibel+edmonds
And there is just way too much intersection with the left-wing kook-o-sphere to feel completely safe with any of this speculation.

Frankly, in all honesty, the most likely explanation is that Sibel Edmonds is the mole who was planted to serve up disinformation about American officials.

NEVERTHELESS, let's play along with her story, and assume that there's a kernel of truth to it - apparently she says that the State Department official who ran the nuclear secrets espionage operation was a Clinton-era bureaucrat, named Marc Grossman, who now works for Clinton's defense secretary, William Cohen, in a lobbying outfit called "The Cohen Group":

Sibel Edmonds. Investigations Thwarted
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Cm-uRQmfUU

Is Sibel Edmonds trustworthy?
Steve Sailer
January 8, 2008
isteve.blogspot.com

Marc Grossman
Vice Chairman
mgrossman@cohengroup.net
cohengroup.net

Note that Grossman served as Clinton's ambassador to Turkey, from November 1994 to June 1997, as Assistant Secretary of State for European Affairs, from August 1997 to May 2000, and as Director General of the Foreign Service and Director of Human Resources, from June 2000 to February 2001; then finally, in the Bush Administration, Grossman was promoted to Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs, in March 2001 - all of which would tend to jibe with Sibel Edmonds's allegations:
Marc Grossman
wikipedia.org

ISI chief's parleys continue in US
September 10, 2001
karachipage.com
[scroll down]

The Pakistan connection
Michael Meacher
Thursday July 22, 2004
guardian.co.uk

By the way - believe it or not - Marc Grossman is even mixed up in the Valerie Plame affair:
New Blogger, More Bolton, and Other News
thewashingtonnote.com

GOOGLE: +"Marc Grossman" +"Valerie Plame"

But now google "Sandy Berger" and "Marc Grossman" [note that "Marc" is often mis-spelled as "Mark"]:
GOOGLE: Sandy Berger Marc Grossman
GOOGLE: Sandy Berger Mark Grossman
GOOGLE: +"Sandy Berger" +"Marc Grossman"
GOOGLE: +"Sandy Berger" +"Mark Grossman"
You get literally thousands of hits which place Berger & Grossman together in the Clinton administration; for instance, they appeared together at a press conference concerning Clinton's November 1999 trip to Europe, when Grossman was serving as Assistant Secretary of State for European Affairs:
PRESS BRIEFING BY NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR SANDY BERGER, ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF STATE FOR EUROPEAN AFFAIRS MARK GROSSMAN, AND SPECIAL ASSISTANT TO THE PRESIDENT AT NSC CHRIS HILL ON THE PRESIDENT'S TRIP TO EUROPE
globalsecurity.org
And today, Sandy Berger & Marc Grossman serve together on the advisory board of America Abroad Media:
The Advisory Board of America Abroad Media
americaabroadmedia.org
But now suppose that the National Archives documents which Sandy Berger was trying to destroy did not so much implicate Clinton Administration incompetence in failing to prevent 9-11 as they instead implicated Marc Grossman in nuclear espionage.

And suppose that when the Justice Department tried to throw the book at Berger, he told them, "Oh yeah? Well if you do that, then I'm going on 60 Minutes and telling Mike Wallace how you promoted a double agent to Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs, in March 2001, and how that double agent was selling nuclear secrets to the Turks, who, in turn, were passing them on to the Israelis and the Pakistanis."

If that's the case, then it would go a long way towards explaining why Berger got off with a slap on the wrist.

42 posted on 01/08/2008 8:56:39 AM PST by KayEyeDoubleDee (const Tag &referenceToConstTag)
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