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To: roses of sharon
evangelicals are not victims in the GOP, values voters have had total control over the nominee for generations now.

Early last year of the Republicans were celebrating what they perceived to be the death of the value voter. There was article after article about how Republicans could get back to being conservatives now that value voters were out of the equation. Then as one candidate after another declared, Republicans told value voters that should put aside their values and vote for this candidate or that or else all would be lost. Now they are miffed that the value voters did not do as they were told.

It is past time for that trend to end.

There have been three legs to the Republican stool for thirty plus years now, and it has been a winning combination. If you wish to go back to loosing elections, feel free to go ahead and saw off the value leg of the stool.

Huckabee will not win the nomination! But he will probably garner enough delegates going into the convention to make Republicans realize that they still need the value voter.

40 posted on 01/08/2008 6:41:38 AM PST by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations.)
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To: Between the Lines

Most likely a very true.

Once everyone gets done getting their respect, we can choose and get on with it.


42 posted on 01/08/2008 6:43:49 AM PST by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: Between the Lines

>If you wish to go back to loosing elections, feel free to go ahead and saw off the value leg of the stool.

Look, I mostly agree. It’s important for the GOP to have a moral stand (family values). But it’s equally important to have a stand on fiscal restraint.

In office we have a man (Bush) who has the moral values, but lacks the fiscal restraint. And we had GOP congressional leaders (representatives) who lacked both moral values AND fiscal restraint. That combination screwed the GOP.

The GOP needs a leader who has a proven record of fiscal restraint AND a moral personal life. That isn’t Huckabee, no matter HOW you spin it.


45 posted on 01/08/2008 6:45:48 AM PST by tortdog
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To: Between the Lines
“Early last year Republicans were celebrating the death of the value voter”?

I am a news-polictical-GOP-Republican-activist-value voter junkie, and I have NEVER heard of this huge development, ever.

Please give me more info.

And please do not think that I nor anyone else want to “saw of the leg” of the Republican stool.

Quite the opposite.

I appears, with all due respect, that this victimhood routine is imaginary, and being used for votes, frankly. I see it here more and more, how the GOP is abusing VV, there is a conspiracy by the “suits-countryclub-rich-ceo-establishment”?

Where is your evidence?

Values voters have complete and total control over the litmus test for our candidates, and have for decades.

Do you deny that?

97 posted on 01/08/2008 7:21:40 AM PST by roses of sharon
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