[DeusExMachina05]

Fred said the right things, but this is an election and communication matters. We are wonks for politics and can look past that, the average voter wont. That is Freds problem.
That being said, I like fred, but hes got to and I mean got to pick it up down south or hes done.

[rodguy911]

Yeah I like Fred as well but his energy level,charisma, etc.he needs to be way more forceful. He has already proven he is the leader of the pack now he needs to reinforce it.