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Police chief sought pain pills
2theAdvocate.Com ^ | Jan 4. 2008 | DEBRA LEMOINE

Posted on 01/04/2008 11:23:24 AM PST by microgood

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To: pabianice

just read your story, and that is exactly why I now interview my doctors and/or surgeons ahead of time in regards to their attitudes toward pain control. I tell them all what I want, and get it in writing prior to any procedures. I will demand proper pain meds and dosing. I have a disadvantage in that I am allergic to aspirin and aspirin products. That only leaves narcotics for me, and I make everyone aware of it. If the war on drugs was declared the quagmire that it is and ended, a small few would suffer and become addicts, but the vast majority of us (and our doctors) would benefit


21 posted on 01/04/2008 12:17:52 PM PST by joe fonebone (When in danger, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout)
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To: weegee
There are some other options. Drugs don't always do the job.

Do the other options "always do the job", and what's the downside? If it's that good, why are we still using narcotics?

22 posted on 01/04/2008 12:18:40 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: joe fonebone

“a small few would suffer and become addicts”

I was on HEAVY doses of oxycontin and fentanyl patches for about a year for cervical disc problems.

Withdrawal from them was very unpleasant for about two weeks, but it is not life threatening.

Withdrawal from opioids is way over dramatized by the media, and insinuates that every person that takes adequate amounts of narcotics for pain relief will turn into a “raving dope fiend”, and go crazy or die if they don’t get their “fix”.

Utter Bullshit.

The way this whole business is handled in this country is a G__D___ disgrace.


23 posted on 01/04/2008 1:34:18 PM PST by EEDUDE
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To: tacticalogic

Capsicum (hot pepper) has been used topically for some time. Clinical research is being done on new treatments — including applying pure capsicum to certain nerve endings exposed during an operation. The treatment appears to be very effective against chronic pain — and it lasts for several weeks or months.

Here’s are a few links:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4993576.stm

http://www.mskreport.com/articles.cfm?articleID=251

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/features_healthblog/2007/11/hot-sauce-may-d.html


24 posted on 01/04/2008 1:40:51 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
I'll pose the same question. If it's that good, why are we still using narcotics? If addiction to narcotics is that bad, and the risk so great as to justify the kind of government action that is taking place, and if these other treatments are so good and so readily available, why are we still using narcotics?

The answers aren't lining up with reality.

25 posted on 01/04/2008 2:41:31 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: microgood
Crawford was arrested Wednesday after trading a .38-caliber pistol and $40 for 20 doses of fake oxycodone

Rush Limbaugh was held for questioning.

26 posted on 01/04/2008 2:44:21 PM PST by humblegunner (My KungFu is ten times power.©)
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To: AppyPappy
Do you know this as a FACT:
I feel for the officer, he must love his wife very , very much , to bad no one will fix the problem .
they just make stupid comments .
27 posted on 01/04/2008 2:51:46 PM PST by Boner1 (Its Time to change are drug laws for some have gone on to be POTUS while other's have been inprison)
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To: nothingnew
I am 100% with you joe. I know from my own experience.

You have my sympathy. Drug addiction for a "high" and drug addiction for pain are entirely two different animals. My addiction is ibuprofin at the moment and has been for a number of years. Like a daily multi=vitamin............

How long before it morphs into requiring prescription drugs, I have no idea but there is no way in heck I could ever condemn someone addicted to painkillers due to their physical condition..........

I'm not even going to get into the sanctified individuals around here who will ultimately show up and classify those who are addicted to pain killers with the common street drug addict...........

28 posted on 01/04/2008 3:04:19 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Visions of sugarplums dancing in your head are probably caused by bad drugs.....)
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To: tacticalogic
I’m all for giving people whatever they need to manage pain — including narcotics, where appropriate.

It seems to me (in my capacity as a complete layman) that it’s good to have as many alternative treatments as possible — one doesn’t have to displace the other.

29 posted on 01/04/2008 3:28:25 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: AppyPappy
You have to have an appointment to get a renewal

Unless all her patients were without insurance coverage and paid in cash, I doubt office visits were raking in the dough for her.

30 posted on 01/04/2008 3:31:52 PM PST by ShadowDancer ("To succeed in life, you need three things: a wishbone, a backbone and a funny bone.")
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

The government’s policy seems to be that they can arbibrarily decide when your doctor has given you enough narcotics, and tell you you’re going to have to find “other alternatives”, withoug any particular concern about whether those alternatives are appropriate, available or affordable.


31 posted on 01/04/2008 3:38:07 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: AppyPappy

“It sounds to me like she has a drug habit”

Of course she does. It takes a long time to taper off of Oxycodone and the side-effects are NOT pleasant. I was on Morphine and then Oxycodone after I pulled an Evil Knieval and am now down to 3 5mg pills a day. Its really rough and you hurt like hell after a few hours without them. I hate the damn things but people need them.


32 posted on 01/04/2008 3:38:25 PM PST by dljordan
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To: Vicki

“My heart goes out to those in chronic pain.”

Most people don’t understand until it happens to them.


33 posted on 01/04/2008 3:40:39 PM PST by dljordan
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To: joe fonebone
.again, it is a travesty that this war on drugs has gone this far.....

I'm mildly amazed by it.

Just about everywhere else, our society is simply terrified of offending anyone. We graduate illiterate kids cause failing them would be bad for their self esteem. Bastard children run amok, we pretend single moms are heroes. Can't check IDs before an election, that's intimidating to minorities. Can't profile terrorists at airports, that's racist. Can't check for citizenship, that's racist too. Can't criticize the behavior that causes AIDS, homophobic. Judgement and discrimination seem to be the biggest sins there are.

Except for drugs. One crumb of chemical that someone might use recreationally and thugs with guns will judge and discriminate you into a cage surrounded by razor wire forever.

We're nuts.

34 posted on 01/04/2008 4:29:47 PM PST by CGTRWK
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To: EEDUDE

I spent 6 days on a morphine pump a few years back....hell, i TOLD them to get the damnthing out of my arm, could not stand it anymore...hurt like hell after they took it out, went on some kind of pill for 2 weeks after that ( personally i do not like being zoned out the way narcotics do to you ) but being allergic to aspirin i have no choice....


35 posted on 01/05/2008 6:48:50 AM PST by joe fonebone (When in danger, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout)
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To: CGTRWK

agreed....time to get out of the quagmire that is the war on drugs....


36 posted on 01/05/2008 6:51:47 AM PST by joe fonebone (When in danger, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout)
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