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To: Mojohemi
I want to be a Christian about this entire issue but, having someone say this in the face of a mass invasion is insanity at its worst. (conduct the debate over immigration policy in a civil manner “that respects human dignity“.)

It is very easy to be a Christian about this.

Mexico has its own immigration laws that it enforces in regards to Guatemalans that cross into Mexico and Cuban rafters that occasionaly land in Yucatan. Those people are sent home.

The U.S. likewise has immigration laws.

A nation's laws are Caesar's rules and Christ advised us to “Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, and unto God the things that are God’s".

"Human dignity" is not advanced by tolerating anarchy and abandoning the Rule of Law.

58 posted on 01/02/2008 6:25:34 PM PST by Polybius
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To: Polybius
"Human dignity" is not advanced by tolerating anarchy and abandoning the Rule of Law.

Well said.

In fact, I believe you can make a very strong argument that tolerating anarchy and abandoning the Rule of Law would produce the exact opposite effect of advancement of human dignity.

Examples are multitude.

63 posted on 01/02/2008 6:32:34 PM PST by Condor 63
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To: Polybius
“It is a shame that our modern democratic government perpetuates a basically aristocratic system,” he said, “by protecting the children of the very rich against real competition from children of the poor.”

There is the gist of their argument in their own words-- our kids are all spoiled rich kids who we are voting to protect from competition. This kind of democracy is not good.

They like competition just fine as long as it means they can waltz in and overwhelm us with their numbers. But expect them to pay their own way in an ER, well, that's something we should do for them because we're richer.

Well, dammit, every one of my kids has had to take out loans and work their way through college and so have I. These hard working illegals drive better cars than I can afford because I have to pay their taxes as well as mine. And like most Americans, I'm getting damn sick and tired of the demands for more entitlements from people who aren't even supposed to be here in the first place.

73 posted on 01/02/2008 7:44:54 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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